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The Top 100 UK Christians – nominations now open

 

In the seemingly eternal quest for hierarchical supremacy in an era of competing rights, societal fragmentation and adversarial identity politics, you may have observed the emergence and proliferation of certain media ‘power lists’ – the Top 100/50/10 Asians, Women, Asian Women, Feminists, Gay Feminists, Asian Gay Feminists, Muslims, Sikhs, Blacks, Disabled, Secularists, Humanists, Secular Humanists, Gay Secular Humanists, Environmentalists, Haggis-making Nationalists, Sportsmen with Autism, Reggae-singing Rastafarians, etc, etc, etc.

Many of these have become annual awards ceremonies of mutual back-slapping, cocktail-swirling congratulation, or published lists of incestuous or inflated minority influence. And each year hordes of hopeful and expectant nominees pore over the rankings to see who’s up, who’s down, who’s in, who’s out, who loses and who wins.

Occasionally, the process is democratic, with shock eliminations and sensational X-Factorised results. Drama, drama. More likely, an elite group of self-appointed, self-important guardians of minority orthodoxy gather over filter-coffee and shortbread to make subjective assessments of relative influence, importance, accomplishments and power (ie, to gossip about whether they like someone and approve of their message).

Occasionally you get the odd ‘Top Christians’ list: there’s a ‘12 Most Powerful in Hollywood‘ and ‘60 Most Influential (ever)‘ compiled by Premier Christian Radio in 2012 to mark the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. Not sure why they went for 60, and no idea of the rationale for putting Harry Secombe above Sir John Tavener. But there it stopped. Again, not sure why.

Now, you may balk at the whole notion of a ‘Top 100 UK Christians’ list of any sort, either because of its manifest parochialism or the obvious transgression of the gospel imperative that the last shall be first and the top shall be bottom, not to mention the whole judgmental window-into-men’s-souls discernment inherent in the process: is Tony Blair a Christian? Is David Cameron? What about Sir Cliff under suspicion? Is Cardinal Vincent Nichols a Catholic? Are Roman Catholics… O, you get the picture.

You are entirely free to play it safe and nominate Aunt Doris for her faithfulness in arranging the flowers week after week; or Bob the organist for never playing a bum note in 30 years of pedal-pushing and stop-pulling at thousands christening, weddings and funerals. This is indeed commendable service for the kingdom. But in consideration of spiritual influence in the world, you must understand that we are dealing with Christians whose ministry is significant in the public realm; those who labour in the vineyard, contending for the Faith, whose fruits are discernible and compelling.

Nominees must be living (ie not Mother Teresa or Martin Luther [King]), and a citizen of the United Kingdom (ie not Justin Bieber or the Pope [Emeritus]). Their ministry may, however, be wider than teaching, preaching or pastoring, and may be to anywhere in the world.

As you ponder your nominee(s), consider not only the question of “What has this person done for us?” (where “us” is the Body of Christ and the communion of saints), but also “What has this person done for the mission of God and the cause of Christ in the world?” If their ministry is principally in and to the Church, have they sufficiently inspired others to follow Christ; to go out into the world and reflect upon the treasures of eternity? If their ministry is in and to the world, does it reflect the peace, love and truth of Christ? Does it radiate anything to distinguish it from secular social intervention? Do they build up or tear down? Are they gracious or haughty? Do they speak, sing or write with divine wisdom, artfulness and insight, or carp about carnal obsessions and material passions? In short, are their eyes fixed on Jesus?

You will find the Nomination Form below. We may not reach 100, but nominations are open and democratic in order to gauge levels of support and discern spiritual impact. We hope to publish the Top 100 UK Christians list annually in December to coincide with the New Year’s Honours. Insofar as Aunt Doris may well top the poll and millions will be oblivious, please ensure that you include your reason(s) for nominating, as citations will necessarily accompany names.

NOMINATIONS HAVE NOW CLOSED (as of midnight, 7th December 2014). Please don’t send any further suggestions as they will not be entertained. Bless you.

 

  • Rasher Bacon

    ” Is Cardinal Vincent Nichols a Catholic? Are Roman Catholics… I’m afraid I did LOL at that point – we now have to rely on bears in woods for our expressions of certainty.

    Naughty sectarian hobbit. Will Happy Jack forgive me?

    • Of course, Rasher. God has a sense of humour and so does Jack.
      (And it was a very good question about Vincent Nichols too. Some are asking the same question about Francis.)

  • I shall not vote in such a charade.
    The real ‘top Christians’ today are the ones who will not get more than one or two votes each- the faithful preachers who faithfully bring the Gospel before their people week in and week out, preaching repentance and faith in the shed blood of Christ.
    I would vote for a man like Chaucer’s ‘Povre Persoun of a toun,’ who
    ‘……..Waited after no pompe and reverence,
    Ne maked him a spiced conscience,
    But Christes law and his apostles twelve
    He taught, but first he followed it hymselve.’

    • You either haven’t read or not understood the post. You are at liberty to nominate such faithful preachers: there is no bar to those “who will not get more than one or two votes”, who may well be ‘Top’.

  • Rasher Bacon

    Yer Grace
    On my iPhone it looks like there’s only space for a number code in the reasons box – you may want to extend…

  • IanCad

    YG,
    There is a precedent here.
    Who was to be the greatest was mooted about at the Last Supper.

  • To the person who just nominated Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks.

    Er…

    • Watchman

      Perhaps we should pray that he comes to faith; he would then surely be in contention.

      • dannybhoy

        Absolutely.
        Jonathan Sacks has shown dignity, humility and courage in speaking up for those he represents and in his own personal walk of faith.

      • Busy Mum

        He certainly serves Christianity better than many self-proclaimed Christians do, by recognising that a society is only sustainable by sharing a moral code.

      • avi barzel

        Perish that thought…..

        • Watchman

          ???????….

          • avi barzel

            Sorry. One more time then, with high-tech accessibility visual enhancement: Perish that thought…

          • Watchman

            Sorry Avi, it’s still ???????..

          • avi barzel

            Hi, Watchman. The greenish knit thing on my avatar’s head is a Jewish kippa, not a cardinal’s cap! The very idea of Rav Sacks, one of my favourites, going off the covenant….

          • Watchman

            “Here, the days are coming,” says A DONAI , “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Isra’el and with the house of Y’hudah. 31(32) It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt; because they, for their part, violated my covenant, even though I, for my part, was a husband to them,” says A DONAI . 32(33) “For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra’el after those days,” says A DONAI: “I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 33(34) No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, ‘Know A DONAI ’; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more.” ( Jeremiah 31)

          • avi barzel

            Well, there you have it, Watchman, old Yermiyahu ha-Navi predicted that we’ll be getting v.2. No release date given. Until then, though….

            Oh, do consider converting…I recommend centrist Orthodox Judaism….if you want to beat the crowds and get the Beta release on the real, genuine and certified kosher brit hadash! :-p

          • Watchman

            Your mockery does you no credit, Avi. It is not me you are mocking.

          • avi barzel

            Mockery? Not at all, Watchman. Deadly serious, in fact. A reminder that we know and believe the words of our prophets according to our own wits and traditions and a reciprocal invitation to you to consider joining the people of the true and only Covenant.

          • avi barzel

            To clarify, Watchman.

            A plain reading of the text you cited and a plain assessment of the situation of the world and Humankind draws you to only one and fairly obvious conclusion: The prophecy, directed at the Torah-cleaving House of Israel, is yet to be fulfilled. The Torah is not in our hearts; we have to learn it and study it. And all do not know the Almighty; they have to learn and study, to obey the Commandments as best as they can, pray, love Him and stay connected.

            Thus there is clearly no new Covenant at this time for the House of Israel, nor for those who imagine to be of it. If there were, it would be as clear as Yermiyahu ha-Navi’s clear words. You can’t have a new Covenant, as described by the Prophet, which is there but not really there. God doesn’t play games.

          • Watchman

            Sorry, Avi you jumped the gun. It is here that we differ; I am living in the New Covenant through the blood shed by Yeshua. The Torah is in our heart through the ministrations of the Ruach HaKodesh

          • avi barzel

            As I suggested below, it’s not a mandate to urge conversion…although, descent, moral thinking people like yourself would be always a joy to receive.
            But something else caught my attention. Not only do our times not even hint that we are in a stage of a new Covenant, be it a Jewish or Christian one, but the very Christian definitions of what such a Covenant means fails in basic ways. In biblical language and for millennia, “the heart” meant in the cognitive, logical faculties. In Jewish scripture, right up to the late Middle Ages, the heart was always the symbol for man’s intellect, the cognitive, logical faculties, the most sublime gift of God, the one that makes us in “His likeness.” The qualities that separate us from the animals and the Pagans, who are ruled by primarily by strong passions and appetites.
            Paradoxically, though, at some point Christianity took on the Greco-Roman interpretation of the heart as a seat of faith, love and emotion in general, thus misinterpreting its own Gospel writers! Anyone who supposedly has the Torah written on his heart…a state implying a magical super-awareness where the person doesn’t need to strain his brain with study and debate… should know this basic fact, and not to mention, should understand Torah intellectually as well, to be able to rattle off Scripture and all of its layers of interpretation.
            I mention this stuff not to get into theological competitions but mainly to show that the basis for the Jewish “stiffneckedness,” it’s rejection of Christian doctrine…or Islam, Mormonism, Paganism, materialist secularism and whatever else comes along to announce itself as a the miraculous, one-shot solution to the “Jewish problem”… is deep and on solid, well thought-through Torah-based foundations.

          • Watchman

            I think the answer lies in Shaul’s letter to the Roman converts:

            11 “In that case, I say, isn’t it that they have stumbled with the result that they have permanently fallen away?” Heaven forbid! Quite the contrary, it is by means of their stumbling that the deliverance has come to the Gentiles, in order to provoke them to jealousy. a 12 Moreover, if their stumbling is bringing riches to the world that is, if Isra’el’s being placed temporarily in a condition less favored than that of the Gentiles is bringing riches to the latter how much greater riches will Isra’el in its fullness bring them! 13 However, to those of you who are Gentiles I say this: since I myself am an emissary sent to the Gentiles, I make known the importance of my work 14 in the hope that somehow I may provoke some of my own people to jealousy and save some of them! 15 For if their casting Yeshua aside means reconciliation for the world, what will their accepting him mean? It will be life from the dead! 16 Now if the hallah offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole loaf. And if the root is holy, so are the branches.

            As a goy, why should I want an old covenant when I can be grafted into the root of Avram and receive all the blessings of your old covenant.

          • avi barzel

            Uh, uh, won’t get into an exchange of passages, especially ones I don’t hold by. Merely made a point that while there is only one God, one unsurpassed Torah and an existing Covenant, your loyalties are yours, mine are mine. Difference is, you are allowed to hold on to yours without suffering and I don’t have an obligation to convert you.

    • You have to admitt he speaks more talks more sense than many with the CofE these days. During John Humphreys Radio 4 series ‘In search of God’ he completely outclassed the other leaders including the rather limp Rowan Williams.

  • Inspector General

    ” I’m gonna be the greatest in this world, (ho!)
    In the next world and in any world! (hey!)”

    From “I’m the greatest” – John Lennon

  • Inspector General

    One hopes no one has the bad taste to nominate Cameron

    • bluedog

      But SamCam scrubs up well in the WAG stakes.

    • CliveM

      You know when I read this I nearly changed my nomination!

  • bluedog

    Brilliant, Your Grace, and like all outstanding ideas, why didn’t anybody think of that before?
    One assumes that an appropriate diploma is being prepared for the winner, to be presented at the gala dinner and award function, complete with WAGs in fashionable attire. On second thoughts, that may not be appropriate, and a colour spread in Hello! may not be the way to go either.

  • DTNorth

    Pious hypocrites all.

    • Inspector General

      Don’t be like that. For all you know, your proctologist could be Christian…

      • CliveM

        Lol

        • Inspector General

          And now, the Inspector will pull out of the {AHEM} ‘hat’ so to speak….
          A bunch of flowers {APPLAUSE!}
          A string of flags {ROAR!}
          No less than TWO doves {GASP!}
          And, finally, a very twisty wire coat hanger {WILD SHOUTING!}

          • CliveM

            I hope all of this will bring a smile to his face………

          • …. and Fluffykins,

      • carl jacobs

        You see. This is what I mean by the elusiveness of British humor. This post has been up for three quarters of an hour and it makes no more sense to me now than when it was first posted. And yet Clive laughed. There are some very strange phenomena occurring on this Blog this morning.

        Oh wait! My EMF meter is going off again.

      • avi barzel

        Pffft. Unlikely, though. Going by the fellow’s expression, looks like his proc-doc was in the middle of a jihad during the visit.

        • Inspector General

          Saints be praised ! It’s Avi Bar el !

          Notice the missing ‘ ‘ old chap. After a nasty virus attack, have lost that key, as well as the question mark on the other side of the keyboard. Life is veil of continuing tears…

          • avi barzel

            Ha! That’s all? I had letters missing on all my text, websites and apps. V fixed it with an upgrade. Is your email working?

          • Inspector General

            Damn right it is ! As you north American types will have it.

          • avi barzel

            Well, then, my roastbeef-eatin’, over-the-big-puddle pardner, go over to your two in-boxes and take a gander to see if any-thang popped in. System check.

          • avi barzel

            Um…lost all data on my cell, including your new email…can you ping me on my Gmail rather than the Lambo account?

  • scottspeig

    I am a little disappointed in the limitation of UK christians personally, as for me the greatest influence over my life recently has been one William Lane Craig and his faithful teaching of church doctrine (Defenders), thereby strengthening my faith immeasurably. Of course, the biggest issue in all this is that I cannot inform you of why the person I have nominated deserves it as it may put her life at risk!!

  • carl jacobs

    So. Ummm….

    Is this for real? Or is it perhaps a manifestation of that most elusive of paranormal encounters – the British sense of humor?

    • ;o)

      • carl jacobs

        Well, that explains why my EMF meter is going crazy. I thought it might just be the pipes in the wall.

        • Inspector General

          Thought you lived in a log cabin…

          • carl jacobs

            Inspector (and Fluffykins the Cat)

            Yeah, but we had indoor plumbing installed last year.

            😉

          • Inspector General

            No more digging latrines then !

            No stopping progress, what !

          • CliveM

            He means he has brought the bucket indoors!

    • Martin

      Carl

      Humour.

      • carl jacobs

        You see, not only do the Brits possess a sense of humor inaccessible to anyone not possessing an interdimensional portal, they also can’t spell.

        • Martin

          Carl

          Just because your fathers decided to fiddle with the spelling of words, much like the frogs decided to play with measurements, it doesn’t mean that you know how to spell.

          • CliveM

            Martin

            Finally we agree!

  • dannybhoy

    It can’t, shouldn’t be done, but for the sake of commenting I personally would think of men like Billy Graham, simply because the Lord used him as an evangelist who in his generation reached out to so many.
    He didn’t do signs and wonders, he didn’t do a personality cult, He didn’t set up his own church…
    He and his wife’s feet were humbly and firmly planted in the basic Gospel of Redemption..

    “God is speaking to people right now. Now I want you to get up out of your seats and make your way to the front….”
    God bless the man.
    The Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury?
    Mehhhhh..!
    Like chairmans of the board, their role is to stop the wheels coming off their respective expressions of Christianity. To ensure that performance figures and assets management are being maintained, scandals are discreetly handled etc..
    Unkind you say?

  • carl jacobs

    I protest the deliberate and wanton privileging of the biologically-abled in the formation of this list. It displays an exclusivist and intolerant attitude towards those Christians who happen to be dead and is therefore a malignant display of necrophobia.

    carl
    Chairman, Edmund Burke Now!

    • Watchman

      We could even nominate Archbishop Cranmer – Oh, just a minute………!

    • Uncle Brian

      I hope this doesn’t mean that Burke has been posthumously received into the Calvinist church?

      • carl jacobs

        But of course that is the Predestined outcome for every Believer. Now we see dimly. Then we will see clearly.

        • Uncle Brian

          I trust we shall also see clearly the truth about Sola Scriptura!

          • carl jacobs

            Ah, but the truth of Sola Scriptura is already seen quite clearly.

          • Uncle Brian

            In the here and now, some people see the truth more clearly than others. The score in upticks stands at 5-1.

    • It is also Anglo-phobic as the list is closed to colonials.

      • carl jacobs

        (Jack. That should be Anglo-centric.)

        But anyways…

        Yeah! Why the blatant Anti-Americanism? It’s an outrage!

      • Martin

        HJ

        The lists should always be closed to colonials as a matter of principle.

  • To the person who nominated Jesus..

    Despite Blake’s belief that His feet in ancient time and all that, He must be discounted because He doesn’t hold a UK passport.

    And to the person who nominated Bruvver Eccles..

    Not only is (s)he anon; it is impossible to corroborate the citation that (s)he is “The most save person in the UK”

    • Long live Bruvver Eccles.
      How can a Bruvver be a ‘she’?

    • Lowry

      Your Grace: Eccles is a duality – two persons – one a gentleman posting from abroad, the other a lady not a million miles away from me as I type…both far from anonymous and both bitter in their satire and frequently unacceptably malicious.

      • Mungo (and Midge)

        “Lowry”, a figure sadly familiar to some of us, is as usual the victim of his own strange obsessions. The two individuals (excellent persons both) to whom he alludes are nothing to do with Eccles.

        • Do you know Eccles?

          • Mungo (and Midge)

            I know the other two people, and know that neither of them is Eccles.

          • Lowry

            I do. He’s trying to lead a poor innocent local priest astray with his occasionally appealing humour with which he cultivates friendship only to turn on the naive person when it suits his warped agenda.

            In this case he is welcome to continue because the young man is of the misguided uber-traditionalist variety and considered an anomaly by the other priests in the vicinity.
            So the sooner he moves on the better,

          • Lowry, you are being a very bad person. Jack may have to report you to the big boss. Surely you’ve heard what he has to say about gossip:

            “As Christians we chat! The chatter is hurtful? We hurt one another. It is as if we want to put each other down. Instead of growing one makes the other feel small while I feel great. That will not do! …. Rumours are destructive in the Church, they are destructive … It’s ‘a little’ like the spirit of Cain who killed his brother, his tongue; it kills his brother! …

            We do three things: We supply misinformation: we tell only half that suits us and not the other half, the other half we do not say because it is not convenient for us … The second is defamation: When a person truly has a flaw, it is big, they tell it, ‘like a journalist’ … And the character of this person is ruined. And the third is the slander of saying things that are not true. It is like killing ones brother! All three – disinformation, defamation and slander – are sins! This is sin! It is to slap Jesus in the person of his children, his brothers.”

            You must go to confession. Maybe ask the young priest you have badly maligned to hear it. Jack suggests you apologise to this priest and also to Eccles.

          • Mungo (and Midge)

            Jack, Phil/Lowry is a fantasist, and a malicious one at that. This is not the first time he has flung around random accusations based on nothing more than (readily disprovable) guesswork. Which might not matter so much, were it not that he impugns real-life people by weaving them into his fantasies.

          • I’m trying to work out whether these are deliberately malicious lies, or simply a misapprehension. In either case, total nonsense.

          • Eccles

            Whatever the case, Lowry cannot be nominated as a role model of Christian virtue.

            Pope Francis will be disappointed with him too as he disapproves very strongly of gossip and especially “disinformation, defamation and slander”.

        • FrereLapin

          I am indeed an excellent person, and so are my four excellent donkey persons. We all live a healthy life of bitterly unacceptable satire and rood & norty traddy banter. Long may it continue, and Phil Evans/Lowry’s sad little game be frustrated.

      • Hi, Phil. You are wrong in all respects. Sorry.

        • Who’s Phil?

          • Mungo (and Midge)

            One of Lowry’s many previous incarnations, particularly on Damian Thompson’s now defunct Telegraph blog.

          • Ah, if he frequented that particular blog then this explains a great deal. Jack visited it a few times and found it a most odd place. Full of strange and argumentative persons.

          • CliveM

            Oh the irony!! 🙂

      • FrereLapin

        The somewhat warped fantasies of Phil Evans/Lowry etc. go back a very long way. I would be pleased to own up to being Eccles, but I am not him. The obsessions of Lowry/Phil Evans extend to internet stalking and very dangerous behaviour intended to have professional consequences. I nominate him for Demon of the Year.

      • I remember Eccles in The Goon Show.
        A man of great intellect as I remember.

  • Busy Mum

    Abraham was realistic enough to start by asking for only fifty righteous persons, but even that was grossly optimistic…..however, the UK’s continued existence suggests that we should be able to find at least ten.

  • Jill

    Sadly I would find it considerably easier to nominate people who have caused the most damage to the Christian faith – and more than ten – and that is just from within the Church!

    • That’s why we’re looking for those who deserve some recognition, who don’t grab the media’s attention. Many good and faithful servants getting on doing God’s work without making a fuss.

      • Jill

        I do know such people, Gillan, but they are more likely to be the ones who perform the more menial tasks in the Church than those empowered to pass the faith, as received, to the next generation.

        The only one from the latter group who comes to mind is Bishop Michael Nazir Ali, who never fails to stand up against heresy wherever he encounters it, no matter how unpopular that makes him.

  • Simon Taylor

    Can I suggest you keep nominations open for a while and then ask for voting? Could allow us to vote for those we didn’t nominate and alleviate our sins of omission!

    • Nominations are staying open for about a month. We are consulting the Holy Spirit on the precise mechanism after that..

      • Single Transferrable Vote?

      • Pubcrawler

        If the decision is to be put to the Spirit, then why not the method used by the Copts to select their pope?

        • Not a bad idea, Pubcrawler. His Grace will still need to identify those three candidates who get the most votes. Perhaps he could put these names in his urn and blindfold a suitable person to pull one out.

  • Inspector General

    Help chaps. One’s email account has been hacked into, and the swine have somehow managed to block messages out, and further, cannot receive Discus emails either. Don’t even know if Cranmer has received this man’s nomination.

    Have anti virus but they’ve got passed that. ~ Any ideas welcome…

    • dannybhoy

      Inspector
      forgive me, but what sort of anti virus are you using??
      You may need to completely change your passwords etc.

      • Inspector General

        Bullguard. that man !

        • dannybhoy

          Well I understand that Bullguard (very apt) is good.
          I use AVG free and that’s effective. There is an awful lot of hacking going on now, evidently from governments and unemployed eastern europeans.. 🙂

    • CliveM

      Is the problem with your IT or with Disqus? If disqus probably best to set up new account with a stronger password. If IT I am of no help at all!! But as Dannybhoy says, change all passwords.

      • dannybhoy

        Ignore anything Dannybhoy says, Clive.
        I’m going to have to reinstal my whole system… 🙁

        • Inspector General

          There’s an idea. Can you recover your old email addresses ?

          • dannybhoy

            I use Google mail with Firefox browser. I don’t know if Firefox is really the best but I’m an old man and it’s the one I am used to.
            Anyway, Google remembers my contacts and saved emails after a complete reinstal, but my browser ‘forgets’ all my favourites and bookmarks, which is a bit of a pooh.
            The upside is that when you do a complete reinstal you get rid of all the bits and pieces of programmes that you thought you had deleted. They can still be there on your hard disc and can be very difficult to track down, so that’s a bonus.
            Also because you’re starting afresh your computer will usually be much quicker.
            It’s all the old junk that accumulates on the disc that slows it down. Then you’re getting rid of any suspicious malware that might be spying on your computer usage..
            (Am I sounding paranoid? You betcha!)

            It will take a few hours to do, but as my old emails keep on coming despite keep being deleted, something is obviously wrong, so a reinstallation is the only way forward..

            Go to it chaps!

          • CliveM

            Get Apple!

          • dannybhoy

            I got an Apple iMac as well as a laptop with Windows 7.
            But on the Mac I use Google in preference to Apple’s useless Mail programme
            (-in fact quite a few of Apples programmes are either useless or unnecessary . Take Launchpad, Dashboard and even Activity Monitor for example. Totally unnecessary! ) The build quality and resolution is good though… 🙂 )
            So I have the same problem with Google on the Mac.
            I shall be reinstalling the Windows 7 laptop tomorrow.

    • Watchman

      I think disqus must have an issue with their password file; they think I’m someone else. They possibly need to re index the file.

    • Inspector General

      Thanks to all who came to a fellows aid. One is convinced that some agent of Satan has his Windows Live Mail by the short and curlies. Unfortunately, this application lacks a tools option, and one was rather relying on a tip. No email is but a minor complaint thankfully in a world of suffering…

      • dannybhoy

        Very strange, but my mail system too has gone berserk too! I have over a thousand and counting old emails FROM LAST YEAR!!
        Oh my Days!

      • Uncle Brian

        Something a bit odd has been happening to me today, as well. Nothing nearly as serious as your problem, though. It’s just that I upticked a couple of comments on this thread and a few hours later I noticed that my upticks had vanished. More details in the Chatroll box at the foot of the home page.

        • dannybhoy

          me too! The ticking seems to have stopped..

  • Shadrach Fire

    Surprised at this post is an understement. I was once told by a man of God to avoid credit in this life as it will deny you award in the next. If anything that I have done or will do counts anything towards the expansion of Gods Kingdom or for the benefit of saints, I would prefer my reward to be in Heaven.
    Those who could be included in such a list are the anonomous saints that faithfully serve the Lord in humility and meeknes thant their presence is hardly noticed except for the individuals helped.
    I can’t honestly say who I would nominate as they would be upset by the recomendation, wanting to remain a humble servant.
    I can understand Carl’s comment that he thought this was an English joke. Had it been on the first of April we would all have known, but on this remembrance day I don’t feel I can take part.

    • magnolia

      And yet we live in the modern world, and we need name-recognition for the media to pick up on and advertise those who wish to help others to Christ.

      What is the alternative? Well often it has been to push those whose primary skill is not theology, but say, the triple jump, into the famous Christian spotlight. Or sweet innocents like Jill Dando. Or those who turn out to be frauds like Savile. In none of those cases and for startlingly different reasons did it turn out well for them or us.

      For others they have had the fortitude and the fortunate positioning to survive.

      Far better that we have people who are theologically rigorously trained to write articles and appear on the media on faith matters rather than celebrity faith talk, (variable as it is in quality and orthodoxy) also I would think.

      Christian leaders have lots of experience dealing with not getting big-headed and giving the glory to Christ. Will Wesley not get his reward because he was well known? I think not. Don’t worry these people will have had detractors aplenty!! To balance that it is good for us to honour and thank them, surely?

      • Martin

        Magnolia

        Why would we need the media to pick up anything? I recall the cartoons produced of a great preacher in the century before last.

  • C. Quinn-Jones

    I think the ‘best Christians’ are probably known to God alone. Personally, I feel inspired by many, and especially Malcolm Guite.

    • dannybhoy

      I see you’re a Christian and a grandma. Now if you’re “the right sort of Christian” i.e. a Roman Catholic with a certain Jewish heritage, you might be some long lost colonial cousin of Happy Jack!
      In which case you will probably go up in his estimation, and might even (after suitable investigation and verification) be declared a “US character…”
      (Eh Jack??)

      ps ‘C’
      My wife loves machine embroidery and she’s very good at it.
      It says here…

      • Still not mastered the mysteries of hyper-texts, Jack sees. You failed to correctly close here: Jewish,/i>.

        From Jack’s initial research it appears Christine may reside in Britain. She is a member of the Church of England (low church) who comes from a Roman Catholic/ Baptist background.

        • C. Quinn-Jones

          Well done, Columbo 🙂 Yes I live in the Midlands…grew up in Wales… a bit of a mongrel really!

          • dannybhoy

            We just love the Welsh Rugby team..

          • C. Quinn-Jones

            🙂 I always watch 6 nations – don’t really understand the rules, though!

          • dannybhoy

            The Welsh play Rugby with real passion. Our English team are a good young team, but for sheer involvement you can’t beat the Welsh boyos.

          • CliveM

            “Our English team are a good young team”

            LOL! Ha, ha ha..Cough………… Ahem. Sorry about that.

          • dannybhoy

            Off topic: apologies..
            Clive truth to tell, the last time I/we really felt connected to an English team was when we won the world cup in 2003.
            The current team has the makings of being world beaters, but something seems to have been lost in terms of team spirit and sportsmanship. Dunno.
            Scotland of course hasn’t got a hope.
            Despite their latest win, although Laidlaw and Hogg and a few others continue to impress.
            Very much o.t. Clive, did you think my criticism of the iMac was unfair?

          • CliveM

            We bought one recently and like it, although I rarely get to use it. Their is no right or wrong in this, it’s about what your comfortable with.

            Regards England, just indulging in a little innocent wind up! 🙂 They are actually looking strong. Still need more creativity I think. But off topic, so no more!

          • We all have our crosses to bear. Mine, of late, is reading comments from dannybuoy.

          • dannybhoy

            Dannybhoy has been sent to this site both to test thine patience and to have his own opinions challenged and probed.
            As iron sharpeneth iron… Proverbs 27:17

            How’s that granddaughter doing?

          • CliveM

            Now that’s unfair!

      • C. Quinn-Jones

        🙂 I have a friend who is Jewish …but I’m not sure if that counts?!

        • dannybhoy

          It might do.
          Jack is very pedantic as befits a man of his persuasion… 🙂
          and in never happier than when picking up on other people’s misteaks.

          Who cares about higher-texting anyway?
          Be off with you!

          • Jack is perhaps a semi-pedantic.

            John Donne used the word in 1580 in “Sunne Rising” where he bids the morning sun let his love and him linger in bed:

            “Sawcy pedantique wretch,
            goe chide late schooleboyes.”

            Is the sun pedantic?

          • dannybhoy

            I ‘d like to say yes, but anything that would further inflate your ego would be a moste grievious sine and replete with the moste noxious repercussions..

  • C. Quinn-Jones

    Sorry – I just realised I nominated a US character 🙁

    • Is there such a thing as a US character?

      • C. Quinn-Jones

        There is now 🙂

      • dannybhoy

        🙂
        HJ You’re so sharp, you’ll cut yourself…

  • Rasher Bacon

    Are we allowed more than one nomination? – looks like it if the (s) on the end of nominee goes with a singular ‘your’.

    • dannybhoy

      No, you’re not.
      Greed is a sin.

    • I thought we could nominate 100. I’m scraping the barrel now with the woman with a limp who hands out the service sheets.

      • You know 100 Christians ?!

        • dannybhoy

          Lol!
          Lying is a sin too.

  • Philip___

    I agree with HG’s reasons for caution” but nevertheless put forward my nomination.

  • Martin

    Hmm, isn’t it God who judges & will we not be giving Him the praise?

  • Martin Dixon

    Would it not be better to specify Christians who are active or based in the UK rather than UK citizens? My church has an American minister for instance, who would be ineligible under your rules.

    • Why would that be “better”? What’s to stop your nominee returning to States over the next six weeks? What’s to stop any foreign national returning to their place of birth after their nomination? In which case why not open it to all Christians all over the world? And why stop there? Why not make it all Christians for all time?

      • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

        And why not fictional Christians?

        • Welcome back, Mrs Proudie.

          • Old Nick

            I wonder if she will be nominating Mr. O. Slope

        • dannybhoy

          Ah,
          in that case I would nominate Mrs Craik’s hero,
          “John Halifax, Gentleman”!
          A most influential book which I still have and love, despite its very Victorian slant..

    • Rules are rules, Martin. Americans are way too competitive. This will be a prestigious award. Open nominations to them and we’d have campaigning before you know it.

      • carl jacobs

        [cough cough]

        Good grief.

        [cough cough cough]

        That’s a lot of smoke. Who would pop so much smoke on this little weblog? You can hardly see.

        [cough]

        Oh, I get it. There is something written here that someone is trying to hide.

        “The Americans… would…”

        Ah. It starts with a ‘W.’ But I just can’t see it.

        • This is exactly what Jack means. A British Christian would never hope to w.. such recognition or, indeed, expect to do so. Now, an American on the other hand ….

  • len

    The’ top Christians’ are( in my humble opinion) those who give their lives rather than renounce their faith.These are the ‘little people’ who have no reward no recognition on this Earth and suffer a lonely and violent death.
    These are the’ top people’ in the KIngdom of God.

    • Dominic Stockford

      Matthew 5:10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

  • I nominated Stuart Townend for writing hymns like ‘In Christ Alone’ smd ‘From the squalor of a borrowed stable’.

  • Tempted to nominate Mrs Julia Hayes of Botley, Hampshire for numerous unsung acts of kindness to various needy persons and wretches including one’s wretched self. But I won’t.

    • dannybhoy

      I quite agree.
      They say love is blind…
      🙂

  • Tom Holland

    I nominate Francis Spufford, for having written, in ‘Unapologetic’, the most accessible, humane and convincing articulation of the case for Christianity that one could hope to read.

  • Thomas Keningley

    Richard Bauckham. Stalwart and scholarly defender of the historicity of the gospel narratives.

    • Uncle Brian

      Seconded. Jesus and the Eyewitnesses was an eye-opener. There can’t be many academics around these days who are daring enough to assert that the Gospels actually mean what they say.

      • Uncle Brian

        His Grace tweeted yesterday (30 Nov.): Suspicious theological bent to dozens of recent nominations. #CranmerList2014 is for distinguished witness *in 2014*. Does this mean Bauckham is blacklisted?

  • I don’t feel that we should be elevating anyone to any kind of hierarchy within the body of Christ

    • Dominic Stockford

      Jesus certainly elevated some, to apostleship, so why not?

      • Uncle Brian

        Yes, Dominic, a good point, and one of them in particular: “Upon this rock …”

      • I think your reply actually points out the answer to the why not. that was something Jesus could do not us

        • Dominic Stockford

          Paul tells the Thessalonian Christians that he “glories” in them because of their faithfulness. I see no problem in imitating Paul.

          • Yes he gloried in them and thanked God for them but he didn’t start saying ok now you are the best and he’s the next best and she’s a it better than him and pick out the top 10 now did he

          • Dominic Stockford

            No, he picked out the top 11, plus one other, Then went out of his way to pick out Paul to replace the other.

    • Then don’t nominate anybody …… simples.

    • I view such awards as a celebration of achievement, not a badge of distinction. We should recognize top Christians as people to emulate. Although a Baptist, I see within the hierarchical Anglican and Catholic churches the best Bishops and Archbishops are often the most humble and approachable. Within the Baptist Church those in positions of leadership are also the most humble. On this basis, I believe the one who should win the award as Britain’s top Christian would find it a burden.

  • CliveM

    Whilst I certainly have no problems with this, I suspect any worthy recipient will be the type of person who is likely to be the most distressed by the ‘winning’.

    • The Bishop of Buckingham has no reticence about speaking at Pink News award ceremonies. He may not be too distressed by winning an award for being a top Christian. As he said at this award ceremony: “The struggle in order to allow gay people to marry, I’ve got a book out on it … “. It will help sales. Jack is mulling over the possibility of nominating him if he can find someone to second this.

      • CliveM

        Yes I had thought he was one individual who would enjoy winning, but I figured that he would have nominated himself already, with the Editor of Pink News seconding!

      • A DIX

        A Church of England bishop who supports the rights of homosexuals to marry? A shame to the cloth he wears. The Bible’s teachings are explicit on this – and I’m not just talking about the OT laws.

        • He’s a reconstructed Christian ……..

  • Is someone up for seconding Jack nominating a modern, fully reconstructed, intelligent, erudite person? He has a beard too. A man of open mindedness who’s vision and understanding transcends social constructs and who tirelessly campaigns to set prisoners free from their captives who impose artificial controls. A man dedicated to sharing his sunny-side and bringing to the light those who manifest their shadow-side.

    Happy Jack will not embarrass this man by disclosing his name. Publicity may enhance his reputation (and book sales) but he is a humble man and would shun such praise.