3a - Negativity and criticism
Meditation and Reflection

TGI Monday: How do you deal with negativity and criticism?

 

Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer (1Jn 3:15). Negativity and criticism are unpleasant to receive, and undoubtedly corrosive of the soul which dispenses them vindictively. And chocolate isn’t always the answer. There’s criticism and criticism, of course: some is edifying and building up; some is manipulative and destructive. Constructive criticism is undoubtedly still hurtful, but destructive criticism is poisonous.

The Bible says a lot about criticism, but it distinguishes between prejudicial judgment and ‘speaking the truth in love’. There’s nitpicking and faultfinding, and there’s faithful rebuke: ‘Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful‘ (Prov 27:6).

As Christians we are supposed to love those who hate us. But how do you love those who seek to tear you down for confronting injustice? How do you love those who repay kindness with abuse? How do you love those who insist on floating in a sea of tranquility when God demands a bit of boat-rocking? If someone is caught in sin, the last thing they’ll feel from your rebuke is love and compassion.

Critics can be patient and kind, or they can be bitter, patronising and cold-hearted. How do you pray for them? How do you heal relationship? Can you even be be bothered to handle negative and critical people in church?

Well, here you go. The blog thread below invites positive affirmation as well as negativity and criticism.

For future episodes, please feel free to send your questions directly to the TGI Monday team.

  • len

    Man uses ‘repression’ for controlling the negative aspects of Human nature ‘Political Correctness’ is the secular way to repress negative emotions . ‘Sharia law’ is the Muslim Way.’ Religion’ is the way many people try to do better by’ being good’ and following (or doing their best at least) to follow God`s Law.
    By God`s remedy is far more radical take the sinner to the cross of Jesus Christ crucify his old nature and give him a new nature which of course is the only solution to the problems afflicting humanity.

    So’ telling the Truth’ in Love is the biblical way.
    Truth and Love are the fruit of the Holy Spirit all else is fabrication and hypocrisy.

    • Mike Stallard

      If you dish it out, you have to take “the truth in love” when it is dealt out to you.

      • len

        Correct, as long as its ‘Biblical Truth’.

      • dannybhoy

        As long as it is really said in love. Behind everything should be
        a) Doing all for the Lord’s glory
        b) an awareness of our own failings
        c) a genuine desire to walk in the light and build each other up in truth and Christian love.

        • magnolia

          Yes, the worst is when you are gracious and kind to someone else’s efforts in a bid to encourage and not discourage them and they receive your encouragement and later ladle you out large amounts of discouragement some unjustified and no-holds-barred in return. There is such a strong temptation to take back all the nice things you said and give them back in return no-holds-barred but you know it would be wrong……Shame in a way… Lent can be a hard discipline!

          • dannybhoy

            Like I said, we’re all at different places.
            One of the wonderful things about being a Christian is that if we seek to live as our Lord commands us, we can change our attitudes and responses by the power of the Holy Spirit.
            But it doesn’t mean everyone else will!
            Or they may not yet be at the place where they can.
            I believe we Christians are a family, with all that entails. Sometimes the most hurtful things come from other Christians rather than non Christians..
            It can take a while to build up relationships that are honest and seasoned with His love, but I think that’s when His grace flows most.

          • Revd. Zoe Heming

            It’s true that familiarity breeds contempt. I agree that we are only accountable for our own actions, words and attitudes. If Christians are a family then we can expect things to be messy at times. It’s much more meaningful & fruitful to be real, as long was grace abounds.

  • dannybhoy

    Christians are called to be different.
    Some perhaps more robust personalities will feel very comfortable with ‘speaking the truth in love’ -although they may regard the ‘in love’ bit as an optional extra.
    Some more gentle souls will major on the need to ‘turn the other cheek’, perhaps because they don’t like confrontation or they have a low opinion of themselves, or prefer to stay in the background and avoid any uncomfortable discussion.
    We’re all at different places. The worst thing though is when we ignore the whole issue and resort to gossip, slander or bitterness. That’s not what the Lord wants of His children.

    • len

      The Cross of Jesus Christ is an offence to many. The Gospel has suffered greatly because many Christians have a fear of man’, a fear of causing offence, a fear of being disliked a fear of being ridiculed.
      Jesus knew this fear would affect those who followed Him and warned them that was a price to be paid for following Him and to count that cost before they set out.

      • dannybhoy

        So..
        we’re in agreement then Len.

  • CliveM

    “Telling the truth in love” a much abused passage. Whenever I hear someone use this as justification for what they are about to say, you know it isn’t said with love, but rather with relish. The phrase being used as both justification and cover.

    Typically the type of person who uses this phrase, is the type of person who is most unsuited to it.

    • Mike Stallard

      I absolutely love the picture of skating! A wonderful example of Scottish art.

      • len

        Not on thin ice I hope?

        • CliveM

          Happy Jack made a similar comment when I first used it. I like that idea.

          So absolutely!

      • carl jacobs

        Scottish art? Where’s the kilt? Shouldn’t he be wearing a kilt?

        • len

          Bit cold when skating draughts and all?

          • carl jacobs

            Yes but we are talking about people who eat haggis. Rational behavior can’t be assumed.

        • CliveM

          Rolls eyes heavenwards!

    • len

      Telling the Truth is always the best option, the Truth offends some however it is told.

      • Royinsouthwest

        Do you deny Clive’s point that the phrase is often misused?

        • len

          Motive behind comments is sometimes difficult to discern?.

    • dannybhoy

      Clive, you have a gentle spirit.
      (Danny said that with relish… ;0))

  • Mike Stallard

    For five years, I put lesson plans on the TES website. OK a very few people found them helpful. But the vast majority were, frankly, just rude for the sake of being rude. I was, as you do, working for no pay and just being nice. And, yes, it hurt. (I got about half a million downloads too.)
    After a time I just read the cold, ungrateful comments and came to realise that they were not really important in the great scheme of things.
    I have just read one such comment on an excellent blog, written, without pay, from the heart. I just scrolled down.
    Some of these people, remember, find it very hard to spell words over four letters long. Another trick I learned on Labour List is to look up the comments of such people and then quote them back at themselves! Boy do they get cross!
    There is actually no more bullying or personal vitriol in these comments than there is in a good hard rugby tackle. It’s only a game, you know. And it is remarkably good for the ego to take criticism wherever it comes from.

    • len

      The price you pay for ‘sticking you head above the parapet’ is people will take pot shots at you.(ducks for cover)

      • Ivan M

        You have always been a brave one. One has to grant you that.

      • preacher

        But then again Len, if you’re not being shot at, it’s because you’re not worth a bullet.
        Blessings brother, keep ducking & diving. P.

    • Ivan M

      Most people who do this, have nothing better to do with their time. If you want to see worse examples of this, just look at the bums who comment on YouTube

    • Uncle Brian

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  • magnolia

    Thanks. Found that helpful. Especially the bits about motivation. Why is this person doing that? How much is justifiable? How much is down to his/her skewed perceptions of you and sadly twisted motives? Are they looking to build you up and help you? Or even on topic? Are they jealous of some aspects of you or thinking you need taking down a notch or two?

    It’s difficult as we can all veer between oversensitive and under-sensitive. Don’t take a certain poster’s posts to heart! That would be wrongly categorizing them! Though some of the phrases might be trenchant and even vivid, they are really about him not anyone else; they don’t go out to others except in soliciting attention.

    Lots of love and prayer must be going a certain poster’s way. Hope he can absorb it!

    Keep going! People will notice the odd teething issue, and expect the unrealistic; that is life!!! It is a good, and helpful venture. With appreciation!

    • Revd. Zoe Heming

      Thanks magnolia. Over-sensitive & under-sensitive is a good observation and I agree that both are unhelpful to standing firmly on our rock.

      • Findaráto

        Does milk pudding stand firmly on rocks or does it dribble down the sides and then wash away completely in the first rainstorm?

        At least two-thirds of the readership of this blog would dismiss you out of hand as an evil and/or catastrophically misguided woman pretending to be a vicar when really you’re not, because women can’t be vicars in Christ’s church.

        I don’t dismiss you for that reason, but rather because you peddle a sugar-coated, milksop version of the same toxic religion your conservative male counterparts have been thrusting down our throats for hundreds of years.

        As such you’re no better than a drug dealer, to be dealt with like all drug dealers. Your particular brand of poison may be sickly sweet and appear to be harmless, but once children get a taste for it they soon graduate to the harder stuff. All the caring, sharing, inclusive mumsyness of your type of Christianity is just a gateway drug to the hard-edged misogynistic and homophobic crack cocaine of the evangelical and Catholic pushers. Indeed the thin end of the wedge is in some ways the most dangerous part.

        By all means stand (or in your case sit, with brake firmly applied) on your rock, but don’t be surprised when a wave of ridicule washes over you and drowns you out. Among the four of you, you’re in the weakest position. LG’s layer of blubber will make her shoot straight up to the surface like a buoy and bob along on the tide. On whichever shore she fetches up, she’ll live to preach another day. WP also looks padded enough to float and his inexhaustible supply of hot air will certainly act as a buoyancy aid. HV’s beard will serve him as a makeshift raft, and if he’s clever enough to wear another Val Doonican jumper next week, he’ll be able to wave it about as a distress signal and be rescued by whatever skull-and-crossbones evangelical vessel hoves into view. But wedged into that heavy wheelchair with your leaden liberal conscience weighing you down, you’ll be in trouble.

        I hope you have a large air tank strapped into your luggage rack. It’s your only hope…

        • sarky

          Although I loosely agree with your first four paragraphs, I found the rest, unusually for you, humourless and just a bit nasty.

          • magnolia

            Were you only reading every fourth word of the preceding words, as they all fell short of basic human consideration and proportionality?

            Just A BIT nasty? Come on, Sarky, you have more imagination as to how others feel than that….

            This is abnormal, and he is in danger of spiralling into a self-destructive vortex. What we need to grapple with is that this is bad for him, destructive to his inner being, and we should not encourage it in any way.

          • sarky

            He’s free to say whatever he wants. There have been enough chats on here about freedom of speech for him not to be denied that right. At the same time people have a right to respond as they see fit.

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          • The Explorer

            The rest is indicative of the new world of love and tolerance once Christianity is disposed of.

          • sarky

            I’m part of the new world and I questioned it???

          • The Explorer

            True, and all credit to you. But once the cruelty that was Christianity has been disposed of, what will replace it?

            In ‘The Descent of Man’ Darwin faced the principles of a well-run farm – drown the runts, strangle old chickens, restrict what breeds etc – but shrank from applying those principles to society. Nietzsche didn’t. He thought Europe had been ruined by centuries of Christianity. The favouring of the weak had resulted in the sickly European herd animal, the bungled and botched.

            Secularists have resorted to various solutions for improving the human stock. The eugenics of Galton. The biology textbook that featured in the Scopes Trial favoured forbidding those with a low IQ from breeding. In the 30’s the USA and Germany sterilised criminals. Margaret Sanger of ‘Planned Parenthood’ wanted to abort the negro race out of existence. Peter Singer favours abortion of foetuses identified with crippling diseases (he has a point) and infanticide for any who slip through the net. Jack Kevorkian has his methods of dealing with those at the other end of the age range.

            So there are various ways the new ethical system could go. We’ll see who triumphs.

          • sarky

            That’s like saying Fred Phelps represents all Christians.

          • The Explorer

            Not at all. I was illustrating a range of secular attitudes. I was not saying those are the only available secular attitudes. It would be the equivalent of the Fred Phelps brand of Christianity regaining power.

          • Findaráto

            Why humorless and nasty? Because I made reference to DN’s disability as a major contributing factor to her right-on liberal leanings? Or because I pointed out that in any given situation of conflict, the disabled find it harder than anyone else to run and hide? Isn’t that pretty obvious?

            If you want me to express it differently, how about this?

            LG is overweight, but not to the extent of being immobilized. Like most fatties, and especially the kind who’ve been large since childhood, she can roll with the punches. She’s used to it. She’ll go off and sulk in a corner, and probably snivel a bit, and then she’ll be off on another self-help crusade desperately trying to make herself feel better about own situation by pouring herself into helping others. She’s a Christian stereotype and this is how that particular Christian stereotype functions.

            Indeed they’re all Christian stereotypes. WP is the dull Christian heterosexual male whose blank incomprehension of anyone who could possibly have a problem with him is expressed as ponderous and grunting dismissal. Apparently the man in his home town who drives a van and occasionally stops to “abooze” him is just “weird”. He isn’t an individual with a life story that might explain why he reacts badly to vicars. He’s just “strange”. That kind of “I’m alright Jack, so he must be the one with the problem” attitude is rooted in a level of white heterosexual male privilege that’s impervious to criticism. He reacts to conflict by shrugging it off, and then he probably takes his motorbike out for a ride or watches an old episode of Top Gear and everything is alright in his world.

            HV is most brittle of the four, but not the most vulnerable. A family man who on the one hand clearly espouses a conservative evangelical agenda, but who on the other also has a bit of a precious and sexually ambiguous thing going on under that beard. He’s trying so hard to be what he thinks he should be that he’s neglecting to rein in fully what he actually is. Bits of the real him keep leaking out past the beard in the form of foophy little hand movements and petulant tilts of that retroussé nose. But no matter how far you push him, he’ll always retreat back into his rigid, codified and conservative evangelical certainties. He has little personal robustness, so he’s chosen to take shelter inside the concrete fallout shelter that is evangelical Christianity. That’s how he deals with conflict. He flings 500 years of rigid Protestant certainties at it.

            Which leaves us with DN, clearly the most vulnerable of the four. The woman is a study in all that’s PC and utterly ineffective in the modern church. Her liberal Powerpuff Girl social justice “warrior” theology has the same number of legs to stand on that she does and is therefore probably quite grateful for the wheeled transport she provides. A very large section of her own church rejects her as biblically unfeasible. So she busies herself talking about diversity and inclusivity and the righting of social wrongs in the hope that she can win them round with her unique feminine take on ministry, when what they really want is for her to join the WI, make jam and shut the f°#k up.

            DN’s problem is that she’s fighting on two fronts, with weapons made out of candy floss and sherbet love hearts. If people like me don’t get her first, other Christians will. The era of DN’s church will be a short interlude in Christian history that will go the way of Flower Power and Godspell. She’s fighting a losing battle in the way that the three other TGI Monday presenters are not, protected as they are by the time-honored nature of the particular stereotypes they represent.

          • The Explorer

            “Or because I pointed out that in any given situation of conflict, the disabled find it harder than anyone else to run and hide? Isn’t that pretty obvious?”

            The old would have a bit of a struggle, too. In a society that took ‘survival of the fittest’ as its model, the problem of the disabled would not exist. Not for long, anyway. Hitler’s Aktion T4 programme pointed the way.

          • Findaráto

            Need I point out that the aged are not represented on the TGI Monday panel? The camera guy looks pretty decrepit, but we don’t see much if anything of him. There are no racial minorities either. I wonder why?

            Yes, disabled people are at a disadvantage when it comes to conflict situations. So are the elderly. If they’re members of your community, you’ll probably want to help them. If they’re enemies who are trying to destroy you, you’ll probably pick them off first.

          • sarky

            I agree with your aims but not your methods.
            There is no glory in shooting a sitting duck.

          • Findaráto

            A duck is a duck whether it’s sitting still or flapping about. When baked in an orange sauce and served with a selection of roasted vegetables, you won’t be able to tell whether it was shot on the ground or on the wing.

          • sarky

            But you will!

          • Findaráto

            And I’ll enjoy both varieties just as much.

            What’s with the misplaced gallantry? Does DN deserve special consideration because she’s disabled, or a woman, or both?

            Equality tends to be a dominant theme in the witter-fests of Christians like DN. At least I’m doing the poor woman the honour of not treating her like some kind of special delicate flower that needs to be pampered and mollycoddled. If I were her, I think I’d be more offended by your attitude than mine.

          • sarky

            Delicate flower? ? I’m not. Her disability is an irrelevance, if you have to resort to mentioning it then you have already lost.

          • Findaráto

            No, her disability is not an irrelevance. It’s part of who she is and why she believes what she believes.

          • sarky

            Think there’s more to it than that and it’s that you should be questioning.

          • Findaráto

            You’re not really thinking so much as letting PC unease at the thought of mentioning anything that might cause offense to a minority govern how you express yourself.

            I have no such qualms. Disabled people like DN exist and their disabilities are often integral parts of their characters and life stories.

            Witness the following statements from DN’s own biographical page on the Lichfield diocesan website.

            “The v​oice of disabled people a​s a source of transforming power i​n all church life.”

            “A ‘v​iew from the pew’ o​f being disabled and the associated struggles with Church.”

            DN claims her disability as part of the reason why her ministry is relevant and meaningful. And I’m not supposed to talk about it because it makes you uncomfortable?

          • sarky

            Doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all. I just find it a distraction from the real issues.

          • preacher

            Sarky I have a lot of time & respect for your views, even if we differ in where we stand. What I find hard to comprehend is how you can agree & with some who post here who are so inferior to yourself in intelligence, honesty & integrity.

      • The Explorer

        Findarato wants to abolish Christianity and usher in a world of love and understanding. The spleen below (and a most appropriate place for it) is indicative of the sort of brave new world he has in what he likes to call his mind.

  • preacher

    Interesting points raised, but I found it rather introspective & negative. We are in a spiritual battle & should expect opposition. Just as the Lord & His disciples did.
    Criticism is surely preferable to crucifixion, but we are told by the Lord to pick up our cross & follow Him, so anything less than He suffered, we should surely be willing & able to endure.
    An old saying is ” Laugh & the World laughs with you, cry & you cry alone ( or the World laughs at you ) “. We have many blessings. A tip I found long ago is to deal with our pride, proof ? – The devil is one proud creature – laugh at him & he’ll leave.

    Blessings to all. P.

    • dannybhoy

      “Interesting points raised, but I found it rather introspective & negative.”
      Isn’t it all to do with spiritual balance preacher? Have you never felt discouraged when things in your congregation seem dead, saints unresponsive, ‘the skies as brass’ etc.?
      The fact is that we Christians need each other.
      “Love ye one another, as I have loved you..”
      We sometimes need a brother or sister in the Lord to come alongside and lift us up with words of encouragement or a kindly act.
      I know all about walking in the Spirit, but we need the love and support of our brothers and sisters too.

      • preacher

        Hey danny, sorry I’m a bit late in replying. Regrettably I find that much of the Church nowadays seems to fall into one of two camps. Custom, tradition & lethargy or screaming, shouting & other manifestations that have no basis in scripture. I love them all, & blame the leaders for the problems, as I feel it’s a case of the Blind leading the Blind.
        We need leaders who are strong, full of faith & the Holy Spirit, who will preach the word, with signs & wonders following, people who are able to step outside of the box when needed. If we emulate the Lord Jesus, we won’t go far wrong. tender & compassionate with the flock, but not afraid to be strong when needed with those who ridiculed, opposed or used their power for selfish gain.
        Such people would love & strengthen the weak, because their nature would be in harmony with the Holy Spirit. Binding up the wounded & the lame, carrying them where needed & setting an example for them to follow. Such a Church will sweep the board of the enemy & hasten the return of the Lord. That is my prayer & my goal brother & I know you feel the same by your postings.
        Onward & upward, it’s always darkest before the Dawn !.

        Blessings. P.

        • dannybhoy

          I agree with you Preacher.
          Especially..
          “Such people would love & strengthen the weak, because their nature would be in harmony with the Holy Spirit. Binding up the wounded & the lame, carrying them where needed & setting an example for them to follow.”
          That’s what it’s all about isn’t it.

  • The Explorer

    It is argued that the disappearance of Christianity would make for a kinder, more humane society. The comments of Findarato/Linus (who wants Christianity to disappear as fast as possible) last week call such an assumption into doubt.

    • Anton

      Perhaps he is really a committed Christian who is pretending to be an atheist in order to make atheists look obnoxious…

      • len

        If that’s his intention he`s doing a great job!.

      • Findaráto

        That would be bearing false witness, so if you were right, how committed a Christian could I really be?

        The fact that this idea could even occur to you tells me something about the real nature of your faith. What a bleak and depressing picture it paints.

        • Anton

          I have noticed that you don’t criticise Christ, just churches. I do that myself.

  • carl jacobs

    Ya know. Eeyore gets a bad rap! It’s not our fault that every cloud has a dark undertone. It’s not our fault it always looks like rain. You … Optimists need to take off your rose-colored glasses.

  • carl jacobs

    Well this is unfortunate. I don’t have much negativity or criticism to pour on this offering about negativity and criticism. (OK, my knee twitched a little at the Social Justice Warrior stuff.)

    1. Definitions would have helped. The panel more or less assumed the definitions of what they were discussing.

    2. The one place they didn’t really travel was enmity with the world. “A servant is not greater than his master.” This is a source of so much criticism and hostility to Christianity that it should have been included. We stand athwart the modern religion of Self and cry “Halt!”. The world doesn’t like it. We don’t dance to their tune. We don’t mourn with their dirge.

    But otherwise, this was a good effort.

  • dannybhoy

    Not up to anything “shady” I hope?
    Geddit?
    Shady….
    (Danny makes a right ‘spectacle’ of himself and breaks into cackling laughter…)

    • CliveM

      Geddit? No!

  • Martin

    It’s very strange, as soon as I put this on I get a desire to go and do something else until they’ve finished.

  • Findaráto

    “Please be nice to us or we might cry!” said the Feeble Four.

    Christianity shows once more how its most basic principles are rooted in the politics of the playground.

    “Have faith like children!” your fake messiah cried. Well the Feeble Four are doing him proud, aren’t they?

    “He made me cwy and then I ate some chocklit,” said LG. “So if I’ve gained a few pounds since last week, it’s ALL HIS FAULT! Waaaaaah!”

    On the positive side, I see HV has ditched the Val Doonican look. Very wise. But someone ought to tell WP that even if he can’t afford a new collar, a black felt tip pen would make him more presentable on film.

    And as for DN’s pink hairband … what was the poor woman thinking? That disguising herself in toddler fashions and commiserating with LG in tones of “poor widdle oo … there there, Goddy Wod will kiss it aw bedduh!” would have a subliminal effect on her detractors, making them imagine she was a small and intellectually challenged child and thus deflecting the criticism elsewhere?

    Even by the dismal standards of the past two weeks, this was very poor. The milksop and wishy-washy reputation of Anglican Christianity can only be further enhanced if these people insist on staggering onwards with such an ill-conceived effort. By all means let them! I shall watch avidly next week to see what fresh abysses of amateurism and side-splitting banality they can descend to. Even the most imaginative Atheist couldn’t have come up with a better plan to ridicule the Church and hasten its demise.

    • carl jacobs

      Hey Guys! You too can write a post like Linus! Check it out!

      I’ve wanted for a long time to write about how TGI Monday’s directionless perceptions should be summarily dispatched to a tumbrel and carted off to the guillotine. For openers, TGI Monday’s noxious, lubricious blackshirts have been depriving individuals of the right to reverse the devolutionary course that TGI Monday has set for us. There must be justice and restitution for this, and those who are responsible for such beer-guzzling behavior must be held accountable. I suggest we begin by ringing the bells of truth. Doing so will at least prove that if you think about it you’ll see that TGI Monday’s foolhardy fusillades are merely a distraction.

      http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

      • magnolia

        Personally I can think of few things I would rather less write than some of his purple prose laced with arsenic. He needs a good long truthful talk with Miss Marple as played by Joan Hickson. One of those scenes where she takes apart the village’s poison-pen letter writer and leaves her (well usually) squirming.

        He thinks his motives don’t count, or vile means justify his desired ends. He is losing fellow feeling with 99% of the world in the process. This kind of thing if encouraged on its course always ends badly, and I think he is in danger of self-destruction. Meanwhile he is bad for this blog and should not be fed, as you suggest.

    • IanCad

      Not a bad bit of vitriol Findars, but, if I may be so bold? Not up to your usual standard of splendid vituperation.

      • The Explorer

        He gets into his stride lower down.

        • IanCad

          I missed it. I see what you mean.
          He’d be a fine recruit for our side were he not of such a horrid character.

    • The Explorer

      “Cruel? Ach, I wouldn’t worry yourself about it. Girls like LG always have a great sense of humour. It’s what gets them through life.” (‘Hitler was Zionist God’ thread.)

      Last week you were confident that Ros would laugh at hurtful personal comments. Now it’s a complaint about, “He made me cwy.”

      Do make up your mind!

      • Findaráto

        She made my mind up for me by saying “he made me cwy”. Is it my fault she’s one of those who can’t muster enough bluster to hide the sense of personal tragedy that informs and shapes her character?

  • IanCad

    We have four panelists and nine minutes of talk. A little over two minutes each.
    Such weighty matters need more time. May I suggest the episodes be extended to half an hour at least?

    • The Explorer

      Agreed. It’s like ‘The Big Questions’. Once in a while you get people on there capable of framing a real argument. But before they’ve even given the proposition their sound byte time is up.

  • len

    Looking at this episode of TGI (first time ever) wondered if this was for real or a’ send up’ of Christians?.I assume it to be for real?.
    Then another thing came to me ‘the meek will inherit the world.’ I have seen this happen in reality a group of people were taking advantage of someone ‘winding them up’ and telling this person they had entered him in a competition for ‘the best car cleaner in Europe’ and there was to be a reward for the winner.To cut a long story short the whole thing backfired on the pranksters and they had to go through with their plan and make a fake contest and give the intended victim a cash reward.
    The meek shall inherit the world.
    As it was ‘pride’ and the desire to be ‘intellectually superior’ that led to the fall of man God has reversed that process to save humanity from themselves.

    The Cross of Jesus Christ is ‘foolishness’ to the intellectual he cannot understand it.
    The Cross of Jesus Christ takes us back to the very place that caused the problem in the first instance.
    The wise will see it…… the foolish will not.
    God has made’ the wisdom of wise’ foolishness , professing to be’ wise’ they became fools.

  • preacher

    People mate, People !