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“Not very presidential”? That’s precisely why Donald Trump is now President of the United States

When Barack Obama spoke, it was the voice of a god. He intoned overtures of conciliation, his themes were honoured; his words raised the hopes of the world. He was, as they say, presidential. If he tapped you on the shoulder, it was to congratulate. If he looked into your eyes, it was to empathise, uplift and edify. He wielded power to make peace; he governed to reconcile. The BBC and Channel 4 News adored him.

Donald Trump speaks, and it isn’t so artful. You may think that something of an understatement after his inaugural address, which had all the finesse of a sledgehammer and the resolve of faeces stuck to the toilet bowl. There was no scent of roses, no warm hugs, no kissed babies and no sense of fellowship and fraternity. The speech will go down in history as perhaps the most base and boorish inaugural address ever made by a president. It’s “not very presidential”, the pundits of the media warbled into their mics. Which is, of course, precisely why he is now sitting in the Oval Office.

Only he can save America, or make America great again. That is his unshakable conviction, if not quite that of the 62,979,879 Americans who voted for him. He is the man for the moment, the chosen one, God’s appointed. But this is judged to be “narcissistic”, “grandiose”, “egomaniacal” and “psychopathic”, for some reason, as though he were fit more for therapy than presidency. Don’t all politicians govern with the belief that they alone can save their country? In her Downing Street Years, Margaret Thatcher quoted William Pitt the Elder, who remarked, “I know that I can save this country and that no one else can.” “I must admit,” she went on to write, “that my exhilaration came from a similar inner conviction.” Perhaps this proves the point for the anti-Trumps: vanity of vanities; bombastic delusions of self-proclaimed genius. They are the characteristic of vile, divisive, evil people who go into politics to kill, maim and destroy.

Real leaders don’t make great social workers: they don’t like holding surgeries to talk about potholes while dragons need slaying and the world needs saving. They have neither the time for trivia nor the disposition to suffer fools. But ‘President’ has somehow become a synonym for ‘pastor’; a calling to be meek and mild. “Presidential is what President does,” tweeted the Bishop of Leeds, as though bishoping had always been a matter of  tautological rhetoric. Is Robert Mugabe ‘presidential’? Is President Putin or President Bashar al-Assad? Is President Trump not presidential because he’s nothing like President Obama (or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Carter..)?

Is Donal Trump not presidential simply by vitrue of the fact that he is now President? He may not be made quite in your image of a statesman, but a statesman is what he now is. Who are you to bind him in a nutshell now he is king of infinite space? Isn’t his steely conviction that of a CEO, and his impudent bombast that of a commander-in-chief at the threshold of war; indeed, the heir to conflicts everywhere? He doesn’t care if he’s hated, and he doesn’t care what you think. To be despised is the vocation of those cursed with moral conviction. Moral? Oh, it may not be your morality, but binary choices, false opposites and land of hope and glory doesn’t swoon the messiahs of globalism or the elite guardians of ever-arrogating liberalism. He’s “not very presidential” to them, but to the people he is The Donald, their Donald, and he comes to bring freedom and full bellies; he heralds justice and jobs.

Will he disappoint? Of course he will. He has promised the earth to all people, but to America first. Nothing wrong with that, as long as America remembers that the God who was so liberally invoked during the Inauguration says the first shall be last. But that’s for another day. Donald Trump is now the 45th President of the United States. He is in the White House not to make history, but to be it. It’s what he does best.

  • Anton

    Donald B. Goode

    • I am good. I am great. I am the Donald.

      • Martin

        I’spose it makes a change from yeller.

  • ChaucerChronicle

    It’s wonderful!

    He’s removed the LGBTBBCITV nonsense from the website of the White House!

    • Have sent a tweet to the LGBTista: There’s no place for Loony Tunes on my website. That’s all folks!

  • James Bolivar DiGriz

    “When Barack Obama spoke, it was the voice of a god. … Donald Trump speaks, and it isn’t so artful.”

    I remember during the 2000 US election a American in the UK (something like the head of the London office for Time or Newsweek) saying that people were being deceived about the abilities of both men because Gore was a fluent speaker and Bush was not.

    As indicators of ability and experience he cited the facts that; both had degrees, but Bush had a better one; both had post-graduate qualifications, but Bush had a better one; Bush flew supersonic jets in the ANG, not something that dummies are capable of; apart from a few days in Vietnam Gore had never left the US until he had become Vice-President, Bush (when young because of his father’s roles) had spent time in half a dozen other countries.

  • Politically__Incorrect

    Whether or not he’s “presidential” depends on what one expects a president to be. If one expects him to be fearless, resolute, and responsive to the aspirations of those who elected him, then he is presidential. He is a product of the situation America finds itself in. His arrival on the political scene is the result of an organic process that says something is badly wrong with this country and needs changing. The soured faces of the Clintons and the Obamas yesterday said it all. They had screwed up big time and the nation no longer wanted them, their cheesy smiles, their hollow gestures, or their deceitful words.

  • Anna

    Actually it was a very ‘statesman like’ speech, but in the style of the old warrior kings, rather than in the fake ‘man of the people’ style favoured by modern leaders, who then prove to be puppets of the rich. Obama fooled us all with his poetic style, but poets rarely make good leaders. And he showed his true colours in the last weeks of his presidency, as he worked overtime to make things difficult for his successor. The peaceful transfer of power was hardly a dignified one, as Mr and Mrs Obama smirked and scowled behind the new president’s back.

    ‘Yes we can; yes we did!” This must be the joke of the century.

  • ChaucerChronicle

    ‘He may not be made quite in your image of a statesman’.

    There is one thing that Trump, Farage and Hollywood have in common: they speak back to us in ways that articulate and affirm our world-views.

    Think of the cowboy movies. We all know that a lot of cowboys were black.

    Hollywood tells us that they (the cowboys) were like the ‘ideal us’: fighting against wrongs; riding to the rescue and the best shot in the county.

    • Anton

      And rightly so.

      • ChaucerChronicle

        Yes. Hunt doesn’t understand his party’s ‘secretive anti-English agenda’.

        The disintegration of Labour support seems to have begun when it decided that it was going to ‘rub the noses of the Right’ through large scale immigration.

        Labour calculated (correctly) that immigrants initially vote for them.

        What they didn’t foresee were the knock-on social effects upon their white working-class voters: immigrants need housing; shortage of public sector housing; English families then displaced to make room (including the next generation); pressure on school places (displacement again); downward pressure on wages; lengthening queues for GP surgeries and hospitals.

        Farage looked through the eyes of the white working-class and told them what they saw: affirming their view of reality.

        • Anton

          That quote was speechwriter Andrew Neather’s summary of Blair’s views. But it goes a generation farther back, when the white working class took Enoch Powell’s view yet continued to vote Labour. And, a generation before that, Soviet leaders had nothing but contempt for the people who elected them in one-candidate vote-or-else elections.

  • Martin

    I really think you ought to leave the CoE. You’re too stressed over what ‘bishops’ say.

  • len

    Obama was slick.So are ‘snake oil salesman’.
    ‘The Donald’ plays by his own rules and this is has thrown the elites in the US into total panic.

  • Inspector General

    What an exciting time to be alive, eh Cranmer! Thoroughly invigorating.

    You had your doubts about Trump, but here you are today with another splendid piece of incisive excellence. The Inspector will not allow your support to go unrecorded, and as soon as the next US Ambassador is announced, he will write to the fellow and tell him so. Perhaps they might put you forward for some official recognition from the President.

    • Gladiatrix

      The identity of the new US ambassador was announced yesterday

      • Bernard from Bucks

        Yes, but the Inspector has been sitting on the ‘naughty step’ for four weeks and has missed a lot of the news. He has probably got himself tied up with writing crimson messages to ‘pink nudes’. 😉

        • He lasted a couple of days on his self imposed “naughty step”.

          • Bernard from Bucks

            Really?
            The Inspector may be naughty,,,but he;s,,,nice!

          • Cressida de Nova

            Absolutely not so!

          • Bernard from Bucks

            “Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder”.

          • Cressida de Nova

            Good luck with your therapy !

  • len

    Also Churchill’s back in his rightful place in the White House.What’s not to like?.

    • Albert

      Quite. From a Brexit British point of view, Trump looks like good news. They are talking about deals which perhaps will be far better than what we have with the EU, while his coldness towards NATO makes us more important for European countries. How the world has changed since Obama flew in to tell us we would be back fo the queue.

      • len

        Our situation certainly looks more hopeful without Obama in the driving seat.

  • CliveM

    If he was simply the CEO of a mid sized multi national, there wouldn’t be a problem. From my limited experience, to many top directors tend to be narcissistic, psychopaths.

    But he isn’t. He’s the President of the most powerful democracy on the planet and to do that successfully takes more then an ability to say unpleasant things and get away with it.

    To much nonsense has been spoken about us being in a post truth era. Politics has rarely been about the truth. But Trump is a nasty, bullying, abusive liar and as a Christian I find it distasteful that he uses Gods name to add an unearned veneer of respectability.

    • Anton

      Rulers have been doing that since Constantine.

      • CliveM

        And? That validates Trump then?

        • len

          No .But lets have a level playing field,there are few leaders that can claim the moral high ground exclusively.

          • CliveM

            Possibly, but few have chosen so openly to wallow in the filth.

          • len

            If you have facts regarding Trump ‘wallowing in the filth’ please present them.

          • CliveM

            Boasting about grabbing pussy and getting away with sexual assault due to your media profile seems evidence enough to me.

          • len

            That is deplorable, but I suspect things equally as deplorable have been said by other leaders behind closed doors?.
            Bill Clinton’s sexual history is not above perfect also ?.

          • Martin
          • CliveM

            I’m not defending Clintons sexual history. But remember he was talking assault.

          • Dreadnaught

            Power is an aphrodisiac – nothing new in the history of humanity; just look at the track record of the British ‘nobility’ with the emphasis on the nob!

          • CliveM

            Dreadnaught we’re not talking a little womanising here, we are talking sexual assault.

          • ChaucerChronicle

            Then Trump can look forward to woe, upon woe:

            You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

            Exodus 20:7, NKJV

          • Inspector General

            Yet he’s pro life. Clive, he’s the man needed. Like Caustic soda to unblock drains, you don’t have to like the stuff personally…

          • Dominic Stockford

            Kennedy wallowed in far more filth than Trump does.

          • CliveM

            Why does that mean Trump is acceptable?

          • Dominic Stockford

            1. He is as acceptable as was Kennedy.
            2. He is acceptable as he was elected.
            3. He is acceptable because he was elected in God’s sovereignty.

          • CliveM

            Your point 1, is completely meaningless. You can’t say, Kennedy was a sexual predator, therefore it’s ok for Trump to be a sexual abuser.
            Point 2. Electing someone doesn’t mean that their behaviour is acceptable. What a bizarre argument. I am not challenging his election, I am questioning his behaviour and suitability and whether as Christians we should be offering someone who views sexual assault as acceptable, our support.
            Where does 3 take us? We simply accept the behaviour of tyrants, murderers, rapists and crooks and lend them our support, because they are ‘elected in Gods sovereignty’!!!!!! Wow Bonhoffer must have got it wrong in opposing Hitler then.

            Taking down a White house LBGT web page, does not, or at least should not, lead to ignoring his behaviour and justifying Christian support for this man.

            I do wonder if those who support him, had the experience of having a wife or daughter or mother or other female relative sexually abused by someone, whether they would be so prepared to turn a blind eye.

          • Dominic Stockford

            1. He is AS acceptable as Kennedy. This reply of mine makes no comment on whether he is ‘acceptable’ or not. Merely makes a comparison with a ‘hero’ of many people’s.
            2. As he has been elected we have to accept him – or do you oppose democracy? Had Clinton been elected I would have had to accept her, even though she is in favour of post-partum (after birth) abortion – otherwise known as infanticide. Accepting her would not have meant that I supported her.
            3. God, in his infinite wisdom was sovereign over both the election of Trump, and the position Hitler had. We may wonder why He chose to allow one, or the other, or even both – but both happenings were in God’s plan, and by God’s will. Once again, accepting that it happens in God’s will doesn’t mean that one might then not oppose some of the policies brought in. It is God’s will that you are regularly tempted, it is also His will that you oppose such temptation.

            As to your statement that Trump believes that sexual assault is acceptable, there is in fact no evidence that he does. He said some stupid, crass things about women in a fit of braggadocio several years back – but in fact he said nothing more than I have heard frequently said by men in football changing rooms up and down the country, and elsewhere. Saying something stupid doesn’t mean you either do it, or even that you agree with it.

            I live in hope that he has seen the errors of his ways – his behaviour since the election has been very different to that years earlier, even during the campaign. As to offering Christian support, without clear evidence that this is foolish (which may be the case in due course) that is something we should at least consider, rather than having knee-jerk reactions based on media attacks.

          • King David committed murder and adultery.

          • Cressida de Nova

            He also wrote beautiful poetry.

          • Martin

            Clive

            The Clintons wallowed deep enough.

          • CliveM

            I wouldn’t support Clinton either.

    • Cressida de Nova

      This is the sort of response one would expect from any decent person.

  • I think that a lot depends on his various appointees. A good businessman gets staff who are experts in their field and, once a policy is reached, lets them get on with it. Too many of our top politicians want to run everything themselves, with the result that they run nothing properly. Obviously one knows little about his chosen team and the, possibly prejudiced, views of the media, but hopes that they were appointed based on ability rather than “the old pals act”. If he chooses well, he could achieve what he wants, making America great again.

  • Shadrach Fire

    I have more confidence in Pence as Vice President, having Christian influence over Trump.

    • dannybhoy

      And Donald Trump chose him as his running mate didn’t he.
      I would imagine that Trump was as sick and tired of the political establishment and big and growing government as any American.
      I would imagine that in return for making America great Trump expects to grow his own businesses and personal fortune, and perhaps some of his ‘helpers’.
      There is a lot to be said for running an economy as a business and keeping government lean and mean. After all that’s in part how Great Britain became Great and ran an Empire.
      I am a great believer in the idea that the more you provider for the poor and needy, the more of them you will have. Better to find fit people gainful employment and bring back sheltered workshops, daycentres for those who aren’t fit but would like to do something useful.

      • Dreadnaught

        The history of the East India Company (currently fictionalised with fact) as in Taboo (BBC 1) is a fascinating insight into how a private commercial enterprise and not an orthodox political decision, ,morphed into the basis of the British Empire at its height but in reality, it does not sustain the moral position of how we Brits like to think it behaved. History is written by the Victor; that is until this age of information became available the the Everyman.

        • Royinsouthwest

          Different countries became parts of the British Empire in different ways. Some parts of Africa were taken over because naval patrols were not enough on there own to completely suppress the slave trade which was run by Arabs.

          • 1642again

            The Fijian chiefs asked Britain to annex them.

          • Anton

            So did Lesotho, as protection from the Boers.

          • David

            Interesting. Which parts of Africa were taken over for this purpose ?

          • 1642again

            Coastal West African states such as Ghana.

          • David

            OK, thanks.

          • Royinsouthwest

            Sierra Leone was founded as a colony for freed slaves. African rulers were heavily involved in the slave trade and had to be persuaded, by various means, to give it up. We deposed the King of Lagos in Nigeria because of his unwillingness to cooperate. Off the east coast of Africa Zanzibar was a major slave trading centre but the sultans were persuaded to cooperated with us and it eventually came under British rule.

            An article at the BBC website is, as might be expected from the BBC, very grudging in its praise of the Royal Navy’s efforts.

            The Royal Navy and the Battle to End Slavery
            http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/abolition/royal_navy_article_01.shtml

          • David

            Thank you !

        • It was down to our shipbuilding and sailing abilities in1604 to weather the storms, our inquisitive, courageous and adventurous spirit to successfully sail round Cape Comorin and discover another world. Then engage with the natives to take samples home to start trading, and a willing and positive Queen Elizabeth I on the throne. Empires develop naturally, you can’t purposefully create a successful one. If you set out to do so it inevitably does not work out how you envisaged.

          America are always trying to rule the world with their deliberate empire building, their CIA meddling and war mongering which has worked only to deplete their own country and create even more wealth for the rich. And we have followed them like sheep into the ditch.

          • Maxine Schell

            Trump seems to think we should solve our own problems, not keep trying to solve other country’s problems.

          • That’s a good start, let’s hope he means it.

        • dannybhoy

          (Been away)
          Yes, the conqueror writes up the report and ignores the ‘messy bits’.
          One of the marks of a morally healthy society is that we can confront them and try to avoid doing them again. Yet in the heat of battle, without adequate lines of communication and men afraid and confused, things go wrong. Even afterwards, men affected by the death of comrades can commit acts of aggression against the civilians they should be protecting.

    • Dominic Stockford

      Pence is, of course, a saved ex-RC. Thank God for someone who really knows Christ Jesus and true faith in such a position.

      • That’s an oxymoron.

        • Cressida de Nova

          The bishops should buy flats for all the poisonous faux priests….worth the expense…better out than in !

  • len

    Donald Trump is something of an unknown (as a politician) but he obviously knows how to run a business successfully. It is (as HG states) because he is ‘an unknown’ politically that he has been given the chance to put the US back into the black. People are desperate in the US to get some sort of prosperity going again.
    Of course this time is not without its dangers for the US because when a Country hits ‘rock bottom’ often desperate measures are considered.
    Trump is a gamble a lot of people are prepared to take.
    Brexit is a gamble a lot of people are prepared to take. Life is a gamble, there are no dead certainties only death and taxes (as someone once said).
    But…..We must also consider lessons from history when what appeared to be ‘the right man’ walked onto life’s stage.
    So a certain amount of caution and care and watch as events unfold.

  • faeces stuck to the toilet bowl

    An apt description of the silver-tongued politicians of all parties and on both sides of the Atlantic who, for decades, have imported unassimilable peoples and religions in nation-wrecking quantities. If European civilization is to survive, we shall need many more leaders like Trump and like those meeting today in Koblenz.

  • carl jacobs

    The onset of buyer’s remorse will occur quickly with Trump. He doesn’t possess a deep reservoir of public support. He doesn’t have the political skill to pull off stunning legislative victories. He isn’t going to get much through Congress. His relationship with Congress will go south fast. When Congress perceives he is politically vulnerable, it will be on him like a swarm of piranha.

    This is not going to end well. In fact you have probably just seen the high point of this administration. He is the President now. He isn’t just yapping on TV. He has to produce and won’t be able to do so.

    • Gladiatrix

      Congress is solidly Republican by a huge majority in both Houses, Trump is a Republican President

      • carl jacobs

        And you think that matters?

    • “He doesn’t possess a deep reservoir of public support.”

      No too sure about that. He may piss the professional politicians off but Jack believes if they obstruct him it’s them the people will turn on. Therein lies the danger for America democracy.

    • Mebbe an’ mebbe not. But didn’t this game of Trump-can-never-pull-this start at the beginning of the primaries?

  • Busy day. Changed nuclear launch codes to “Password”, then Pence said Vlad might guess it so changed again to “You’re fired”.
    New Whitehouse pets already organised. Saw two cats and said “Grab them. Buy the pussies.”
    Make America grate again!

    • carl jacobs

      Hrmmmm. I wonder.

      As an aside, you are referring to the enable code and not the launch code. But it was funny.

    • Royinsouthwest

      Who needs Wikileaks when you tell the whole world, or at least the good archbishop’s followers, what the new password is?

    • Politically__Incorrect

      The problem with passwords is they are easily forgotten. That can be a problem when you’ve got seven minutes to save the world. A few post-it notes around the place should solve that.

      • Great advice, Limeys! I found a statue thing of this bald guy in the John. Obama must have forgotted it. Have drawn a moustache and glasses on him and written ‘you’re fired’ across his big forehead. Looks real funny.

        • ChaucerChronicle

          Mr President

          Thank you for deleting all that unnatural LGBTQ comedy from the White House’s website.

          • Accidentally fused the Whitehouse electrics and melted the server by leaving my hairdryer on too long. Whole place plunged into darkness! Real lucky the crowds celebrating outside lit a fire!
            The VP wrote the new site. People think he’s dumb, but you can’t tell me Pence is a penny short of a pound!

          • Everybody’s doing a brand-new hair-do,
            (Come on baby, do the comb-over)
            I know you’ll get to like it if you give it a chance now
            (Come on baby, do the comb-over)
            My little baby wife can do it with me
            It’s easier than learning your A-B-C
            So come on, come on, do the comb-over with me
            You gotta swing your head, now
            Come on, baby

            Flip down
            Blow back
            Well, now, I think you’ve got the knack
            Wow, wow

            It’s gonna be Amazin’!

        • Anton

          More has been done to him than that over here:

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/740524.stm

      • Anton

        Thprwipaisthareafo

        Who could remember that? But notice that it is the first two letters of each word in your first sentence, run together, and all you have to remember is the sentence.

  • carl jacobs

    What we need now are some good articles of impeachment. Trump served his (only) function and kept Hillary out of the White House. Now we have to get Trump out of the White House.

    • Anton

      At least let him sort out the climate change stuff. Who else will?

      • carl jacobs

        He’ll taint anything he touches.

        • Anton

          Who else is going to touch it?

        • Melania looks okay to Jack.

          • carl jacobs

            Be good. At least try to be good. You need to set a good example for the Inspector.

          • Anton’s comment was far worse.

          • carl jacobs

            But the Inspector looks up to you as his co-religionist.

            And a anyways. What comment by Anton?

          • Read below.

          • Anton

            Jack, you need some mental floss. I thought you meant my comment some way above, raising the protestant / prostitute joke. When I wrote “Who else is going to touch it?” I had in mind nothing other than the issue of climate change.

          • carl jacobs

            I knew that, Anton.

          • Cressida de Nova

            There is no expectation that Anton should be discerning of have any standards. You…are a Catholic !

          • Cressida de Nova

            The inspector is beyond help.

          • Cressida de Nova

            Downtick !

      • Martin

        Anton

        They all seem scared.

      • Cressida de Nova

        Yes that is what the world needs….a more polluted environment of its waterways and air

        • Anton

          Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. Plants need it to survive!

          It is a greenhouse gas but the warming stats thrown around by the IPCC are exaggerated about 3-fold; they have got away with this because, although the calculation for a dry atmosphere is routine (done a century ago), the calculation in a damp atmosphere is so complicated that nobody knows the answer… so they pretend they do. Why? Well, for Western Greens, who want to drag us back to an idyllic lifestyle that never existed, it’s a way to express cultural self-hate. For the Third World, it’s a way to grab our money. Don’t take my word for it; here is Ottmar Edenhofer of the IPCC: we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy… one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore (interview, Neue Zürcher Zeitung newspaper, 14/11//2010).

          Did you think that those claims of the hottest year ever are based on observations? They are based on computer models, ie theory, with some data thrown in to tune the model. And the theory is uncertain and capable of abuse, as I said.

          The best data are, in the last 30 years, from satellites, which can look at the whole world at once and even remotely sample the atmosphere at different heights. This is far more comprehensive coverage than terrestrial measurements, and the satellite data show no clear warming. As for terrestrial data from the pre-satellite era, as a physicist I am deeply alarmed that these data routinely have corrections applied to them before being presented, and funnily enough the result is always to exaggerate any recent warming. Even at school you are taught that data are sacrosanct. Examples on request. Please consider why this might be.

    • IanCad

      Why?

      • carl jacobs

        Donald Trump is like a man who says “Get out of my way. I can disarm that bomb.” When the bomb is in the airplane and you are in the airplane, you would probably be wise to prevent that from happening.

        “Beat the Rush! Impeach Trump Now.”

        • IanCad

          As you generally write some of the best and most insightful comments on this blog, It would perhaps, be wise for me to take a “let’s wait and see approach” to your post. However, I would bet my bottom dollar that impeachment – at least, a successful one – is not on the cards

        • Maxine Schell

          Perhaps you should read the “impeachment” clause in the US Constitution!

  • David

    I think his speech was clear, punchy and to the point, with short sentences, which is what I’d prefer for, what I hope, is a president, of actions and achievements. I don’t want vague, waffly essays but clear, short pointers towards achievements.
    But the proof will be in what he achieves.
    Meanwhile I wish America and the new president, well.
    Go for it Donald – do what’s needed !

    • Anton

      I gather he used the word “I” only two or perhaps three times. Cf Obama.

      • David

        Errr …. implying ?

        • Anton

          Make of it what you will, but it’s interesting.

        • Try reading Obama’s flowery bloviations. His good-bye swan song last week made Fidel Castro’s speeches seem like a tweet in comparison, as a Fox News pundit quipped.

  • Shadrach Fire

    I have just been sent a sermon from a Baptist minister about the Old Paths. So many today want to follow new ways and are being deceived. Trump and Pence I believe can bring back the old ways to a despairing US. The days of the Liberals are numbered. May this come to pass in the UK also.

    ‘I want to ask and answer a few questions. Why ask for the old paths? It is because the new paths are delusional and destructive. The new paths are man’s miserable substitution for the grand old “highway” of God, which only captivate the unsuspecting into Doubting Castle, the habitation of Giant Despair.
    What are the old paths? They are the remembered paths that Abel, Enoch, Abraham, Moses, David, Elijah and so many more have traveled. They believed God and accepted God’s word as the lamp to their feet and the testimony of His Son as the sure foundation of the their hope. The revealed will of God is the old unerring path that leads to peace and God’s power. This is the light that is as trustworthy as the sun. The old path is sprinkled with the blood of atonement; the new path has rose water of men pleasing.’
    ‘Why we should walk in the old paths? In them we find the blood of Christ to justify. In them we find the Word of God to satisfy. We find the power of the Holy Spirit to sanctify.
    This verse of scripture is the Lord warning the people of God to return to Him. They had forsaken God for their idols and this parallels our time. We live in a time that many of the old time principles of God’s Word have been minimized and forsaken all around us. We see churches and I am speaking of Independent, Fundamental Baptist church that are going down the new paths in order to build larger and larger church regardless of the cost.’

  • Anton

    Alas, even if he and Pence prove to be a good team, Trump is correct that America is is people not its leaders; and, since the sociosexual revolution of the 1960s, its people have wrecked America’s once rocklike family stability. Ancient Israel’s king Josiah was a good king of a people who had become immoral, and in the long run he was not able to make much difference.

  • Dreadnaught

    Whether Trump delivers or not, matters most to the the people on both sides of the economic fence of the USA.
    What matters to the UK and Europe is that Trump has broken through the sugar-glass cocoon that has been the goal and meal ticket for life of career politicians and WOW! how they are feeling the draught up their fundaments.
    The same icy blast has hit the scions of the Media Mob raised on saccharine and socialist ‘equality’ tropes. Why? Trump trusts his Tweets to get his word out and not rely on the bias or interpretation of the Hacks.
    If social media was available to Abraham Lincoln or Theodore Roosevelt or Winston Churchill in their time, they would have done exactly the same; maybe a little maybe a lot[ but those 140 characters if applied judicially will reach the parts of the pubic that even Heineken cannot reach wihout all the schmoosing the likes of the Murdoch or Randolph Hearst apparachiks by politicians in the past.
    Trump and Farage are not career politicians backed up by armies of PPE raised spin-doctors who made sure that political accountability was removed from the ire and accountability due to the stinking public once their votes had been cast.
    Trumps Tweets are out there for all to see, they will either haunt him or hail him on his performance – isn’t that what we want in a 21st Century Democracy?
    Now 500 million people in Europe will be demanding more of the same from their own politicians and not before time.

    • David

      Well said Dreaders.

      • Dreadnaught

        Thank you David. I’ve been checking out the reports of the well organised March of the Women in several countries and can’t fathom what the hell they are marching for. Some say its against Trum Some say its about free on demand abortion. Some say its about equality for ‘opressed’ groups: yet nowhere do I see anyone protesting FGM or ‘Honour’ killing or Islamic marginalisation of women by ‘divine’ sharia authority in dozens of countries.
        Just wtf does it take for Western wimmin to protest en-masse about injustices that really matter. What a selfish bunch of privileged lefties they all are.

        • David

          Exactly.
          Sadly many western women have been totally confused and deluded by the PC brainwashing, along with some men of course. Speaking generally though, more women seem influenced by purely emotional arguments than men, I’d say.
          But what all the marchers are really doing is stamping their feet, in childish rage, against democracy and showing how much they despise their political opponents.
          But the more these displays of spite, anger, entitlement and false superiority continue the better, because all the time the left displays its own emotionally driven immaturity and narcism.
          The Biblical yardstick “by their fruits ye shall know them” is certainly relevant here I’d say.

          • Dreadnaught

            I heard that grotesque cane-toad that calls itself Diane Abbot on radio today – why dont they protest about her and her overt racist agenda?

          • David

            Quite !
            Her anti-white agenda has been apparent for some time.
            But the PC, Cultural Marxists, and all the “useful idiots” that are influenced by them, are only interested in attacking whites who are racist (whatever that word means, as it’s meaning has changed!) because their real, underlying agenda, is to destroy western nations.

          • Dreadnaught

            Not simply ‘whites’ – it must of course be, white English speaking males, who are the racists.

        • Anton

          There’s a telling book called “The cultural devastation of American women” by Nancy Levant (an American woman).

        • Maxine Schell

          It is ALL about abortion privileges. And it is certainly NOT the majority of women.

          • Dreadnaught

            You make a fair point but It’s also about the current vogue of projecting unity through perceived victimhood. Trump happens to be the convenient fall-guy opportunity and perfect timing for ‘the cause’. When is your counter-march?

          • Maxine Schell

            There won’t be a counter-march by anti-abortion women …they are home, taking care of their kids.

          • Dreadnaught

            That’ll show ’em.

  • God once used a donkey. He can use Trump, faults and all.

    • David

      Hilarious !
      Of course Trump is highly intelligent, and we hope, also wise, but with the determination of a donkey.

      • chefofsinners
        • Good one!

          “The Lord’s the one who makes the choice of the
          instrument He’s usin’
          We don’t know the reasons and the plans behind His
          choosin’
          So when the Lord starts usin’ you don’t you pay it any
          mind
          He ‘could have used the dog next door if He’d been so
          inclined”

          • chefofsinners

            You like? I’m glad to share.

          • Said the actress to the bishop ….

          • Allosexuel

            Oo-la- la.

            Weel u let moi run her fingors trooh yoor ‘air big boy?

          • chefofsinners

            Really, Jack, you need to reconcile the different sides of your personality before you’ll be ready for a relationship.

        • David

          He haw ! He haw !
          Where’s me carrots and straw hat gone ?

      • Anton

        He’s not sitting on his ass…

  • 1642again

    I loved his speech. He stood int he middle of the elite in Washington, with the eyes of the world on him, with the crushing power of conventional pieties to conform upon him, and he spoke truth to power in its midst, telling them their time was coming to an end and what he, with the people, were going to do to set his land on a new course. Of couse it’s easy to be cynical, but when all the pundits send he would temper his message, his magnified it. Extraordinary and of huge moral courage.

    • Jack enjoyed it too. There was plenty of vision in the speech – just not the “vision” of increasing welfare and the size of the state and saying to people “mummy” and “daddy” will provide for them and they don’t have to bend their own backs and work. He’s talking job creation and securing America’s future through industry and commitment. And he’s right about American elites too.

      Nothing racist or bigoted in his speech that I could detect.

      He’s calling on all Americans to regain their pride and self respect by hard work and commitment. He’s calling on politicians to stop complaining and making empty promises and to do what the people expect from them.

      What’s the issue?

      • 1642again

        For once I agree with you! There is no issue, unless one does not want to see the slowly Islamicising secular multiculti western states pull back from the brink of self-destruction and rediscover the roots of their values that made them so great.

        • For once? We probably agree on quite a lot, truth be told.

          • 1642again

            Just joking! Like the value of monasticism for instance (I still bear the scars from some of my fellow Protestants), and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the only salvation is through His Word?

          • No need for question marks.

          • Royinsouthwest

            Trump has brought you two together! “Blessed are the peacemakers; for they shall be called the children of God.”

          • 1642again

            I think we both want what’s best for the broader faith and the civilisation it created. We may disagree profoundly about some elements of history or theology, but the broader objectives and desired outcomes are largely the same. For that I give God thanks.

          • Royinsouthwest

            Yes, I realise that you and Happy Jack are basically on the same side, despite all your differences. I was joking about Trump being a peacemaker since he is always being accused of causing division.

          • Cressida de Nova

            I hope not.

      • bluedog

        Read Janet Daley in the Daily Telegraph and think again.

        • Jack read her and disagrees. He never has been a fan.

          “This was a proud commemoration of the tradition of peaceful transition of power that had persisted since the founding of the Republic. It was, as Charles Krauthammer elegantly put it, “a civic sacrament”. But Mr Trump blew that out of the water. There it all was – the bravado and the bellicosity which have got him where he is today.”

          (Janet Daley)

          That’s why he was elected!

          So what if Trump pissed on the parade of self serving politicians at the inauguration, suggesting that the Washington political class had enriched itself at the expense of the people?

          So what if he stated he would unite the civilised world against Islamic terrorism and eradicate it from the face of the earth?

          So what if he wasn’t “polite”?

          • bluedog

            It remains to be seen how a bloke who has gone bankrupt six times, is on his third wife and lives in a skyscraper called after himself can transform himself into a genuine man of the people. I think Trump’s cabinet is extremely interesting, and his ideas on corporate tax and the infrastructure programme he announced will be excellent. But if the bias is protectionist, that’s very bad news.

          • Personally, he’s not Jack’s cup of tea but given he choice available to America he was the best.

          • bluedog

            That’s better.

          • You must allow one some cheer, Bluedog. Tomorrow’s another day.

          • Cressida de Nova

            He is a con man. He is not genuine (full stop)

          • bluedog

            You may very well prove to be right.

          • If you’re a business man in the States who hasn’t been bankrupt you’re not trying hard enough, especially after 1999 law change.

          • Anna

            He has never pretended to be a man of the people and this is part of his attraction. I think. He has promised to create an enabling environment which is all that most people want. The Americans have seen their money being liberally spent by politicians on causes which have nothing to do with them, and Trump has articulated their outrage. Whether he keeps any of his promises remains to be seen.

          • 1642again

            My word, I’m finding myself in serial agreement with you this cold wintry day HJ!

          • Albert

            So what if Trump pissed on the parade of self serving politicians

            In view of the allegations against him in a Moscow hotel, that’s a very unfortunate image.

        • Anton

          It’s not hard to find better commentators.

          • bluedog

            Daley is an interesting study. An American ex-marxist from the East Coast who may well have worshipped at the feet of Herbert Marcuse himself, she now writes from the right. The imagery and the vocabulary of Trump’s speech seem to have triggered deep insecurities in her; she is Jewish.

          • Anton

            God bless her but I gave up reading her a while ago.

        • 1642again

          Neo-con,

          • bluedog

            Always taken pride in being an extreme paleo-con.

          • 1642again

            Agree with that – me too! Who needs marxist utopian internationalism blended with global capitalism? That’s what neo-conservatism is.

    • David

      Hear, hear !

    • Anton

      His fiscal policies won’t work: if other people can make the same products as Americans but cheaper, the rest of the world will buy from those others. Tariffs will rebound against him. As for monetary policy, the USA, like almost everybody else, is in a deep hole that nobody knows how to get out of.

      Culturally, though, he can go a lot of good by rolling back PC.

      • 1642again

        Oddly, the USA is the one country his fiscal policies could work, as it possesses the world’s reserve currency and is self sufficient in all key commodities. The monetary policies are of course not his fault but at least he’s trying to set a new course and I would never write off the USA.

        • Anton

          The ultimate reason it is on the slide is its family breakdown stats.

          • 1642again

            That plus ‘diversity’ and the pernicious influence of Hollywood’s entertainment cutlure.

    • bluedog

      ‘…and he spoke truth to power in its midst,’ Really? As the president, he is the power, so was he talking to himself, and if not, to whom? Declaring war on the US civil service may not be the best way to implement the Trump programme.

      • 1642again

        You don’t get why people voted for him at all do you?

        • Cressida de Nova

          Yes he does…if someone with your limited intellect can be voted on to the board of anything, as you constantly remind us, as if it is something to be impressed by…that is an indication of the paucity of the intelligence level of the population.Dumbing down has achieved its goal.

          • 1642again

            Straight to ad homs already eh? Utterly pathetic as ever. Have you ever run a large organisation or know what’s involved in turning it around into a success? Have you three degrees, three scholarships, a doctorate, MBA with distinction from a top business school?

            Your constant sneering at others simply suggests someone entirely lacking in any grace, divine or human, or any ability to understand other peoples’ perspectives. Something you share in spades with much of the global liberal elite. It won’t work on me and doesn’t work on the emerging majority any more.

          • Anton

            Three degrees? We trust you are not on the square…

          • 1642again

            I had enough of academia to last a life time! Fortunately Classics department always seemed to be a bit counter-cultural and certainly less inclined to ‘group think’. As a natural rebel it suited me fine and let me flourish.

          • Anton

            In that case may I hand you the compliment that your theology is remarkably untainted by the Greek-philosophical viewpoint!

          • 1642again

            Indeed, although one must remember that Greek philosophical thought was largely subsumed into Christian theology, and that one of medieval Christendom’s intellectual apogees was Aquinas’s reconciliation of Aristotle with Christianity. I have become very interested in the Scholastics and to appreciate they they have much to teach us today. Greek philosophy was one of the forces that induced me towards a rejection of atheism.

            That said, I was always attracted to the Cynics and in some ways they reappeared in the guise of ascetic monasticism.

          • Anton

            I believe that Aquinas’ natural theology is exactly what politicians who are Christians need in order to advocate for godly laws in a secular society. But I think that the phrasing of the gospel in Greek philosophical terms for ancient Greek culture is no different in principle from its rephrasing in terms of Papuan culture for Papuans.

          • 1642again

            The use of Greek philosophical terms and disciplines certainly made Christianity a more powerful intellectual force when making the case for Christianity with Greek and Roman pagans, and was conducive to advancing the cause of God.

          • Anton

            Yes of course the phrasing of the gospel in the categories of Greek thought is going to help evangelise within Greek culture; what I’m suggesting is that it’s nothing special outside that culture.

          • 1642again

            I am perhaps more respectful of the Greek genius.

          • Anton

            As an heir of Greek culture I too have a love for a good deal of it. But any theological position other than the one I have set out is to elevate Greek philosophy to the same practical status as scripture.

          • 1642again

            Certainly not!

          • bluedog

            Glory be. Who’s a clever boy?

          • 1642again

            Just get tired of being called stupid and uneducated, but then that’s what Brexit and Trump voters seem to get called all the time, as do many Christians. Funnily enough one of Nina’s mates is always calling me stupid as well. I wonder what these name callers have in common?

          • bluedog

            Nina? Do you mean Cressida? She’s actually in a very mellow mood, just stirring you up and enjoying the reaction, this communicant suggests.

          • 1642again

            No, thus far she’s implied I’m a neo-nazi (LOL), a thug, thick, ignorant, uneducated, arrogant and of course a Hell bound heretic. She’s bitter and twisted about something, a RC version of Nina it seems. Shey can’t cope with people who argue an opposing view forcefully. One can speculate on the reasons but she’s not the first like that whom I’ve encountered, quite a few hanging around the edges of academia and in certain professions in London.

          • Cressida de Nova

            I have never suggested that you are a neo – nazi or a thug. Although your above post certainly smacks of touches of the lout.

          • 1642again

            Yawn.

          • bluedog
          • Cressida de Nova

            Chortles and guffaws ! In his dreams perhaps !

          • bluedog

            ‘There is a sad truth in that there is a certain type of woman which is attracted to men of wealth and status and who will encourage or tolerate such advances, even make them. I’ve seen it myself when director of a FTSE 100 company how such women would do pretty much anything to gain a director’s attention.’

            From an earlier post by 1642again. Is it possible that your failure to react as expected is the cause of tension?

          • Cressida de Nova

            Shudder!

          • Cressida de Nova

            There are a number of people here who have achieved high academic attainments from prestigious universities… not on Open Learning on the internet. However the difference is they are secure and well adjusted enough not to brag about their own self importance and achievements.

          • 1642again

            Here we go again, saying without evidence that my qualifications are from open learning on the internet, having previously accused me of being stupid and uneducated. They’re not actually. My doctorate for instance was supervised by one of the world’s top academics in the field and was externally examined by the world’s leading authority on the subject. I’m not boasting about these things, most people don’t even know I’ve a doctorate etc, just merely evidencing the falsity of your assertions.

            BTW One’s experience of running organisations is relevant to the discussion because one speaks from experience. Have you any relevant experience so that we can listen without thinking you’re just speaking out of your backside?

            You are the one who constantly demeans in an ad hom way anyone who views differ from your’s. You never advance a positive argument about anything, just make snide comments. You’re just another Nina with a different obsession.

            I can see clearly that Jack is a Christian and a Catholic, and for that he has my respect. You however just appear to be a Catholic. I’m hope I’m wrong but your constant behaviour on here leads me to this conclusion.

            Keep sniping away. I’ve dealt with far worse than you.

        • bluedog

          You might think that etc.

    • Courage? Or chutzpah?

      • Cressida de Nova

        Neither….idiocy !

    • Cressida de Nova

      He is a boastful buffoon…a reflection of you…the reason you admire him so much.

      • 1642again

        Yawn.

  • chefofsinners

    Every president gets the successor he deserves. This is the reason for the bitterness etched
    on the face of Obama yesterday. His legacy is not Obamacare, nor LGBT rights, his legacy is Donald Trump, a president who will reverse Obamacare, reduce minority rights in favour of the
    majority, build barriers against immigration, and not fear to penalise all Muslims in order to reduce the threat of Islamic extremism.
    Obama is the president who finally pushed the progressive agenda too far, so that the American people rose up and said “No you can’t”. Obama knows that the next four years, whatever they bring, will be his legacy. Those who are protesting on the streets tonight should reflect on this.

    • bluedog

      Astute observations. The problem is, can Trump deliver on wild claims and manage the expectations of his followers. The speech was more campaign rhetoric than presidential.

      • Albert

        Quite. Following chefofsinners’ insights, if Obama gave us Trump, Trump may well give us Obama II much more wicked than himself.

    • Not just a pretty face, then.

      • chefofsinners

        From those to whom much is given, much is expected.

  • IanCad

    “Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 10:32

    I have just listened to the swearing in ceremony, the speeches, the prayers. Yes! The prayers. Surely God must bless America, a land where the perfect right to worship or otherwise shall not be abridged.

    Great things are expected from this new administration; May it be resolute, just, and again become a beacon for a dangerous world.

  • The Trump Train:

    Today Trump evicts Gay Mulatto from the White House and starts giving us the best shot at the recovery of sanity in three decades.

    I think it will be a success. A stunning success. Mind, this will not become a Catholic paradise, and expectations should not be unrealistic. However, I’d say this will be as good as it gets in our lifetime and age of sodomy.

    (Mr M)

  • bluedog

    The jury is out, Your Grace. With Trump, we’re in for a wild ride. The central plank of his economic position, that protectionism can deliver wealth and prosperity, is pure bunkum and will in fact have exactly the reverse effect. The collapse of world trade in the 1930s shows the way. What will the US electorate say when unemployment rises rather than falls? How will the free trade agreement offered to the UK look if the US retreats into protectionism?Can there be a FTA with the US? One can only hope that his cabinet will be able to sway Trump from some of his more reckless positions.

    • Anton

      Protectionism is bad news. But American’s Corporation Tax rate is absurdly high compared to most other countries and dropping that will do a power of good.

      • bluedog

        Agreed. A low corporate tax rates increase the return on capital and will trigger investment at high levels. The infrastructure programme will be another driver of growth.

      • For one moment Jack thought you’d written: “Protestantism is bad news” and he was about to uptick you.

        • Anton

          You must know the one about the Irish grandmother who faints when her granddaughter whispers in her ear what she is thinking of becoming…

          • Better to be a prostitute than a protestant?

          • Anton

            That’s the one

          • It has deep theological meaning, Anton.

          • Anton

            If this weren’t a light-hearted exchange I’d point you to Rev 17…

          • Q: Why can’t Anglicans play chess?

          • Anton

            Are we going to turn this into denomination jokes thread? Well, I’ll play along for a bit… why?

          • A: Because they can’t tell the difference between a Bishop and a Queen.

          • Anton

            That’s enough soft pawn for tonight, Jack.

          • chefofsinners

            Catholics are superb at chess, because all they care about is the cheque, mate.

          • len

            Better both than Catholic.

          • And just how would you know this, Len?

          • len

            I know all sorts of stuff Jack…

          • Some things you should keep to yourself, Len.

        • len

          bad news for Catholics.

      • Yep! Protectionism will raise prices for Americans, preserve inefficient industries and, perhaps even more importantly, impoverish poorer countries and prevent them from becoming customers for American goods.
        I the Mexicans can’t sell cars to the USA, what is left to them but to sell drugs or to tunnel underneath Trump’s fancy new wall?

        • Anton

          He could always legalise drugs and tax them to the hilt, too… but that’s unlikely in view of what happened to his brother, which caused Donald to be teetotal.

    • chefofsinners

      Protectionism is bad news for the world economy as a whole but not necessarily for the US economy. The distribution of the benefits of free trade is not always to the advantage of everyone, and almost never equal.

      • Ivan M

        At this stage of development the world can benefit from some protectionism. There may be an argument to be made that industries have to be on their toes and competition is the best way to do it. But taken to its logical conclusion, it will have to mean that industries in the West will be hollowed out. since an engineering graduate in Mexico, or China or India is paid about a third of their equivalents. There is no way cost cutting can bridge this gap. And the argument that the West should move on to higher value added activities is flawed, since all these countries can quickly move up the value chain. Knowledge and capital are quite diffused now.

        Along with this, agriculture in the East has to be degraded, since the West is clearly superior when it comes to gross productivity. That means that rural populations will be dislocated and enter the teeming cities, with little possibility of making an adequate living. The advantage of lower costs and efficient distribution accrue only to the non-agricultural sector. With the social costs being borne by the governments.

        When in the 70s, the Toyota Corolla was the best-seller in the US, Volkswagen came out with a campaign that being second best – the Golf ?- was not bad. Second or tenth best is all right as long there is meaningful employment.

    • 1642again

      The problem is that the Anglosphere is playing by free trade rules for the most part, while everyone else pays lip service to them, but in reality adopts subtle merchantilist behaviours, China being the most egregious.

      • bluedog

        But Xi was at Davos as the champion of free trade. Are you suggesting that the ruler of China would stand up in the public square and tell a Big Lie?

        • 1642again

          One might conclude that!

          • bluedog

            Long-nosed foreign devil.

          • 1642again

            Gwailo is the Chinese word I believe.

    • Dreadnaught

      No greater example of Protectionism than the EU Common Agicultural Policy.

      • bluedog

        Very true. The CAP exists to protect a certain idea of France, circa 1453 AD.

  • len

    A horde of mindless liberal zombies have been spotted approaching the White House making a peculiar whining noise.

    • John

      ‘Democrats’ eh?

      • len

        Definitely

    • Politically__Incorrect

      Night of the living dead or just the Democrat Gynocracy pumped up on protesterone again?

      • len

        probably both?

      • Anton

        In fairness, it is worth remembering his “grab them by the pussy” comment in relation to these protests.

        • len

          I think Bill Clinton did.

          • Anton

            Meeow!

        • Politically__Incorrect

          I wouldn’t defend a man making those comments, even though he made them eleven years ago, but I still think these women protesters, who are silent about real abuse of women in Saudi Arabia for instance, are being pretty hypocritical. They are basically bad losers in my opinion.

          • 1642again

            There is a sad truth in that there is a certain type of woman which is attracted to men of wealth and status and who will encourage or tolerate such advances, even make them. I’ve seen it myself when director of a FTSE 100 company how such women would do pretty much anything to gain a director’s attention. It was quite terrifying on occasion whentthey were in full pursuit, especially management conferences, a woman’s advances scorned etc. The film Fatal Attraction is not without much truth. Trump was laughing, somewhat crudely, about this truth.

          • chefofsinners

            Dad?… We need to talk.

    • chefofsinners

      What’s the house of bishops doing in Washington?

  • Aw crap. I found this statue of a fat bald guy an’ drew a moustache and glasses on it. Now Pence says it’s that Limey dude from the war. Even worse, he’s invited their leaderette over next week! May Day!
    Decided to call her up and come clean. What a dame! She said not to worry and she’d bring a rubber! “That’s what I call a special relationship”, I said, but Pence explained rubber means something else in Limey talk.
    Also, disappointing news about the oval orifice. Finally found it but it’s just a room. The smell of BO still lingers. He left me a letter: Dear Don, please turn over. It said that on both sides. Six hours later Pence found me an’ confiscated it!
    Still makin’ America grate!
    PS What’s the handsomest kind of president? A Don is.

  • carl jacobs

    It’s easy to overstate the significance of Trump’s victory. He won because he was running against Hillary. If the Democrats had not been so stupid as to anoint Hillary as their next candidate as early as 2013, Trump would not be President right now. He cobbled together just enough of the angry dispossessed vote with just enough of the anti-Hillary vote to win. That coalition of convenience is incredibly unstable. It won’t last.

    btw. Hillary’s vote margin doesn’t mean much. She ran up huge majorities in places like NYC and Los Angeles. What she didn’t possess was broad support and that’s why she lost in the electoral college. A Presidential election requires more than winning the heartland of Cosmopolitan liberalism. Of course to the Democratic left, NYC and Los Angeles pretty much define democracy. No one else counts.

    • chefofsinners

      It’s not the margin of victory which is significant. It’s the difference between first and second.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      What’s happening is bigger than Donald Trump. Brexit was nothing to do with him, just as the changing political landscape across Europe is nothing to do with him. There is widespread discontent across democratic nations because that democracy is being undermined by a political class that prefers to dictate instead of being answerable to the people who put them into power. Trump, in my view, has simply been caught up in the whirlwind resulting from that discontent. It’s meeting a lot of resistance, but it does seem to be growing stronger.

      • 1642again

        Good comment. At the start I wondered if Trump was sincere, but there came a point in his campaign rallies when it seemed as if his message had seized ownership of him and his ambitions. I saw one campaign speech where the transformation was stark, where he called out every power group in the USA: Wall St, the media, the lawyers, major multinationals, the major parties, the Washington machine… It was a declaration of war on the global elite.

        It was extraordinary. His speaking style suggested a man suddenly possessed by something he had hitherto only played with. The secular equivalent of an occasional churchgoer being seized by the Holy Spirit almost against their will. Ever since that rally it’s seemed to me that that conviction has just gripped him ever harder and his inauguration address was just more confirmation.

        Of course lingering doubts still remain, he is a fallen human after all, but his Cabinet choices appear excellent and give more cause for confirmation. I put my faith in God and that He is using this flawed man for His Ends and will transform in the process His tool to achieve His purposes. The whole road to Trump’s victory is so unlikely and extraordinary that one must suspect that greater forces are working behind the scenes.

        • Anton

          Yes… being blessed due to his support for Israel.

          • 1642again

            Another valid point Anton. One can argue that England’s rise to greatness really commenced with it’s embrace of the Reformation for Protestantism was certainly more (universally though) sympathetic to the Jews and Cromwell himself readmitted them to England.

          • Anton

            The Puritans were the first Christian movement in the modern era to take the view that the Jews were still entitled to the Holy Land, and after the Restoration their view followed into the wider evangelical movement in Britain (and the USA). This was at exactly the time that Britain was gaining its empire and the capability to act on that view…

            There’s a remarkable book called Albion and Ariel by Douglas Culver showing that the earliest, Elizabethan, Puritans took that view.

          • 1642again

            I agree with the thesis.

          • In his prayers at the inaguration, Rabbi Marvin Hier recited the “If I forget you Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its skill…” from tehillim/Psalms. This certainly wasn’t a coincidence, or something he snuck-in, and sure enough, the Trump admin started talking about picking out a spot for a Jerusalem embassy. I propose a location right by the Western Wall plaza!

          • Anton

            Netanyahu might prefer Trump’s support to be given in other ways. Whatever, it’s a vast improvement on Obama.

          • Netanyahu’s preferences at this point might not matter, as the coalition parties realize that they need not kowtow to the Left anymore and put his feet to the fire. To wit, Netanyahu already found his you-know-whats, with the intent to annex Ma’ale Adumim.

          • Anton

            Suits me. On a point of logic, you can’t annex what you already own.

          • That, Sir, is a brilliant point, one I hope others will recognize. Impressed.

          • 1642again

            As long as they give equal rights to the Christians they can have the lot, including the East Bank, as far as I am concerned. Next we need to create a Christian state based on Lebanon and parts of Syria, then Greater Armenia, restore Byzantium… Heady dreams indeed.

          • Heady dreams, indeed. Lebanon’s Christians were abandoned to millions of Muslim migrants, with an embattled Israel as their only ally, and Syria’s were surrendered to the Shi’a Alawites and their Socialist, pan-Arabist programme. Europe willingly signed away Constantinople and a part of Europe at San Remo to Muslim Turkey. It’s very hard, if not impossible, to undo mass invasions. It’s only now, after decades of “palestinianism,” institutionalized appeasement and a flood of millions of Muslims that Europe is broadcasting, “Houston, we have a problem…”

            Christians have had equal rights in Israeli law since 1948. Yes, there have been lapses in enforcement and local disturbances, but the law stands, is enforced by the courts and the Christian communities thrive, recently attaining higher income and education levels than Jewish Israelis.

          • 1642again

            I am a proud Christian Zionist Avi. Nina will be frothing impotently right now!

            Muslim immigration and conquest have only ever been reversed by Christian powers, and can be again. The betrayal of the Armenians, Greeks, Syriacs, and Lebanese more recently, is a scandal.

            But a massive change starts with sharing a big dream. Reconquista!

          • 1642again

            As Cromwell prayed just before Naseby (I think), , “Oh Lord, you know this day what I must do. If today in the heat of battle I forget You, do not You forget me.”

        • Splendid points 1642! The cooky conspiracy (which I half-heartedly almost bought-into) the one where Trump, a long-time friend of the Clintons and a former Dem, was set up to give Hillary an easy win, is still not totally out of the question. This may be a case of a selfish, shallow tycoon who got swept-up by his own success, by the patriotism and the bigness of what the presidency of the most powerful nation in the world means. The Americans are descendants of the Brits and deep-down, they’re still romantic monarchists…except that they build their own monarchy based on the earliest models, where kings were elected from among the people.

    • Aren’t you overlooking the significance of the Evangelical-Catholic pro-life vote?

    • Cressida de Nova

      This is obvious. How could the Democrats be so stupid? If they had have provided a suitable candidate they would have won.

      • magnolia

        According to Assange they played a “pied piper” strategy, of covertly encouraging via moles and whatnot, the election of candidates they considered had least popular appeal. Hence they were jubilant when Trump was elected.

        Now they whinge at what blew back, spectacularly, at them, wailing and instigating riots, instead of sitting quietly and contemplating their own shortcomings….

    • Maxine Schell

      Who else did the Dems have? Socialists Sanders or Warren? No, Trump wasn’t my first pick of the Reps, but I think he would have beat them……maybe any Democrat. He ran against BOTH parties, because the electorate have come to hate our Federal Government. We love our Constitution, but our government doesn’t. If federal govt did ONLY what our Constitution allows them to do, it would be a fraction of its size. We must have an Article V Convention of States to reign in Federal, or there will eventually be revolution, and it won’t be pretty. All governments eventually fail because of their own excess. It will be reformed or failed.

      NO ONE now really knows what the law (rules) is, until you violate the rule. One rule can be hundreds of pages long, and there are 10s of 1000s of rules. You don’t get a jury trial for violating a rule…you go up against the bureau’s lawyers, and judges…only big companies can afford it, and they usually settle for a fine of the company. The $$$ of the fine doesn’t go to the general treasury…the public doesn’t know where it goes (nor does the Legislature)

      Our government is a mess, and there has to be big changes for it to endure.

    • Anton

      He got the evangelical Christian vote too, because despite his comments and personal life they saw what freedoms the Democrats – ANY Democrat, by the way – were going to take from them.

    • He won because he was running against Hillary.

      Same would’ve been said if he’d trashed Bernie, or Pocahontas-Warren. Trump won because he is a master strategist with a good team, who played the Dems like a cheap fiddle and figured out early on what people were sick of and what they wanted. And he certainly wasn’t running against Clinton in the primaries.

      • carl jacobs

        So Avi … Guess what? We have a genuine honest to goodness Nazi on the site right now. Name of NortyNina. Thought you should know before you stumbleon to her.

        • Ah, well, haven’t read all the way down yet, but thanks for the heads-up; might have missed her.

          • carl jacobs

            Read the Trumpelfest thread for full details.

          • Hmm, no NortyNina to be found here. Maybe she deleted herself after she got charmed by Linus and the two of them are eating bonbons in the great hall at his French castle? The one with the moat.

          • carl jacobs

            She posted on the latest thread (Ashenden) and on Mrs Proudies latest thread (Trumpelfest Eve). She didn’t post on the Trump inauguration thread.

          • Yes, I see. A lady with a familiar sentiment but with an unusual theological approach. I just now introduced myself to her on the Mrs P post. People with opinions like hers are like a double-shot of single malt to my insecure and battered ego.

          • carl jacobs

            my insecure and battered ego.

            I understand. It must be a tough burden to carry being Canadian.

          • You are merciless.

          • carl jacobs

            About that “unusual theological approach”. I stumbled onto a website that was listed in a profile of hers that I found through Google. It was called the “Biblicism Institute”. It’s completely foreign to me but it sounds a lot like her. I wonder if it’s a happy face fronting something much more malignant. I’ve looked but found nothing. Do your vast data bases of the International World Wide Jewish Conspiracy of Zionist Domination contain any Intel on this organization?

          • Sorry, missed your comment. Was busy sharpening my horns and wax-polishing my hoofs. Gotta look good for the ladies.

            We’re still transferring our files from cow-hide scrolls to digital, so it was slow going …which I’m sure you’ll appreciate me for… but from what I can tell, it’s pretty much garden variety stuff you’ll come across in dozens of sites. Don’t let the name “Biblicism” throw you off. Technically it means biblical literalism, which goes back to medieval scholastic theologies, but it looks like the name was picked because it sounded cool to someone. The content in that site is replacement theology “British Israelism,” a.k.a., “Anglo Israelism,” and most of it would be gleaned from hundreds of 18th and 19th century pamphlets pilfered from local libraries and archives, and tarted-up for the modern reader. You can spend a lifetime tracing those various sectarian branches, many of which had as little as one or two members.

          • magnolia

            Turns out all the people of that particular place banded together and bought the castle. He probably works on reception blogging in a different language lest he lose his job by blogging in French, between scant visitors, and dreams he owns the whole shebang! Fantasist, no less, no more!

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            I knew that word would catch on…

  • In the morning, madams, you will have stopped protesting, but I will still be president.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      We’ve had a bunch of broads doin’ the same thing over here in Londonistan. We haven’t seen such a big strop-a-thon since Blair and Bush promised to get rid of some towel-head sand monkey called Saddam. Yeah, you’ll still be president in morning, though Madonna has threatened to blow up the White House. More likely she’ll just skulk off and buy another baby.

      • Pence came in a bit flustered and said “There’s lots of women on the streets”.
        “Steer clear”, I told him. I had trouble with that in Moscow.
        “Not that kind of women”, he explained. Turns out the men of America have had a nice quiet day at home and the Donald is more popular than ever!
        Makin’ America grot again!

  • Mike Stallard

    For many years, I have wondered why North America was so different from South America. I thought (OK I was wrong) that is was down to the Spanish Conquistadores).
    Now I can see that they are not so different at all.
    !Viva el President Chavez/Trump!

  • len

    There is the potential for some very serious events happening in the US.
    Echoes of the past are happening such as the statement “This man is not our President”. Echoes of the American Civil war when the South did not recognise Lincoln as their President?.
    Obama made a statement laced with menace along the lines of ” I will be waiting and watching”.
    The establishment in America(hardly call it the United States anymore ?) is furious that their choice failed in the election.
    Are forces now at work in America to derail the elected President and put a more liberal person in the seat of power.The answer is most definitely yes.

  • Ivan M

    Drumpf is going mad. He’s already talking about “columns” ( fifth columns? according to a discussion at Zerohedge ), at the CIA Headquarters. God only knows how many skeletons are buried there. The last man who took a cleaver to the CIA, Adm Stansfield Turner barely survived a plane crash.

    • 1642again

      Or that he knows where his most dangerous enemies lie and is going after them straightaway rather than face constant undermining throughout his term of office. Eisenhower’s warnings about the military-industrial complex spring to mind. It all suggests he has a clear plan and knows what he’s doing. His speech at the CIA was about winning hearts-and-minds of the majority of decent patriots working there so they will cover his back.

      • Ivan M

        He’ll have to watch out for them “grassy knolls”.

  • len

    If law and order in the US broke down to such a state that ‘urgent action’ was required would it be possible for Obama to form sum sort of ‘transitional government ‘ to cope with an ‘unprecedented situation’?.
    Obama has liberals worldwide on his side(apparently)

    • 1642again

      It’s pretty clear that the military, police and NRA membership are overwhelmingly on Trump’s side. There’s a clear legally constituted chain of command in the event of national emergency. What’s a bunch of slebs, snowflakes, anarchists and gangsters going to do against the might of its opponents? How long would they last? 24-48 hours tops.

      • len

        Time will tell.

      • IanCad

        Add to all that, the fact that snowflakes don’t like guns and don’t own them.

  • Found another statue thing. Pence said they’re called busts. Almost sniggered then I remembered. “We can’t say stuff like that Pence, you dang fool. It upsets the women’s posse.”
    “Best not say posse either, he replied.”
    Anyhow, seems these busts are real important to folks. Spent ages cleaning one I found in the Oval Office, but turns out it’s meant to be that colour. Some guy called Loofah King. He’s in the bathroom now, looking good in a blond wig.

    • Erik Dahlberg

      ..

  • Albert

    He may be ghastly. But at least he doesn’t support partial birth abortion like Clinton and Obama. It’s odd how people overlook such things.

    • Dominic Stockford

      People ignore me whenever I bring this up, both here and in other situations. Its as if they are frightened of standing up for life itself.

    • 1642again

      Partial birth abortion is a euphemism and a wicked one. It’s infanticide plain and simple, and that people can advocate and practice it shows their utter degraded wickedness.

  • Alicia Sinclair

    An excellent article.
    He got voted in simply for NOT being Jon Snows composite from a President that HE would warm to.
    If he would rather be liked than right-well, go into media or showbiz, acting or showbiz, the arts or public sector, teaching or charity work.
    But NOT a President on a potential war footing after Fort Hood and Boston, Bear Stearns and Deerborn, Florida or Ferguson.
    Trump did not need this-whereas Clintons and Bushes, Snows and Sopels, Webbs and Burleys clearly DID need their win for their chumocracy.
    Never glad confident morn again-thank God.

  • Hi,

    For those in London protesting and those , when it was candidate Trump, trying to ban him it reminded me of the student union politics . This isn’t an extension of British domestic politics, but about international relations.

    Donald J Trump is now the President of the most powerful country in the world and that is how he needs to be approached. He’s gone on record as being extremely pro British (unlike Obama who was closer to the German Chancellor) and the bust of Churchill is back in the White House .

    Therefore to put the national interest first , pragmatism matters and what happens today. Clearly Britain needs to get him on-board for a trade treaty that was going to be at the back of the queue under Obama and to restore the vital “special relationship” between the Kingdom and the Republic. You can either retreat into the anger of student stuff or work with Trump, which I’m post territory is now in Britain’s national interest.

    As for the second special relationship that America has , in respect of US-Israeli relations, it was obvious to everyone after resolution 2334 , where Obama’s priorities were and they were not about standing fast with Israel. Now Trump intends to reverse this and move the American embassy to Israel’s capital , Jerusalem.

    So whilst if I could , I wouldn’t have voted for him , those who could vote did put him into power. That’s where we are and for the national interest , we’d better “get on with the program” as Dave Cameron once said.