Jihadi John 5a
Extremism

Jihadi John has gone to meet Mohammed

 

It is reported by the Pentagon that there is a “high degree of certainty” that the Islamic State serial beheader Mohammed Emwazi – aka Jihadi John – has been killed by a drone strike near Raqqa in Syria. The civilised world rejoices. Bleeding heart liberals bemoan another extra-judicial killing, after the fashion of Reyaad Khan and Ruhul Amin, which amounts to state-sponsored murder.

Good riddance. Mohammed Emwazi brandished his scythe behind US journalists Steven Sotloff and James Foley, and aid worker Abdul-Rahman (Peter) Kassig. He also beheaded British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning, and Japanese journalist Kenji Goto. No doubt there were many others. And now Mohammed Emwazi is communing with his prophet namesake in the afterlife, sitting at the feet of his spiritual director and learning the true meaning of ideological jihad.

But let us remember that killing individual jihadi operatives, however senior in militancy or notorious in evil deeds, does not snuff out the spiritual fons et origo of Islamic extremism: the death of Osama bin Laden did not put an end to al-Qaeda. Indeed, since September 11th 2001, his estimated 300 militant jihadis have mushroomed to a mighty platoon of some 31,000. You can’t defeat theo-political extremism by beheading the odd squadron of extremists: there is always someone to step up to honour the murderous creed of Salafi-jihadism. It is the principle of tawhid – one god in one one state – in the service of the ummah, the brotherhood of believers. If you believe the calling to be noble and virtuous, following in the literal footsteps of Mohammed, after the historical fashion of Saladin, you are an ally of Allah and your salvation is assured at the End of Days.

The death of Jihadi John is an ephemeral, trivial, inconsequential moment of Western media noise. The quest for the Caliphate continues: the universal Islamic State arises. The objective is the eradication of the Great Satan and the end of humiliation. The means are barbarism, torture and death. Jihadi John was a cultic controller who will now be hailed as a martyr. The death cult of Salfism still propagates its predestined apocalypse, calling more and more Muslims to witness to the victory of Allah and the love of death in glory. The Islamic State knows the path of honour; the path of their prophet.

The spark has been lit. The fires burn. The heat will intensify. Only when the Crusader kuffar are shamed in defeat by the armies of Allah will this jihad come to an end. The battle will be bitter, but be patient. Jihadi John has fought the good fight. It is now for the Crusaders to bleed to death.

  • Martin

    Now he will stand before the real God, not the made up god of the Muslim. Now he will receive his just reward for His wickedness. He had time in the UK and the opportunity to learn of Christianity and squandered it, that is more than many have.

    • Anton

      We may be glad that he is off the earth, but never be glad that anybody is going to hell, for you and I deserve it too, and we are saved from it only by the self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

      • Little Black Censored

        *Ahem!* Yes, of course. Thank you.

      • Martin

        Anton

        It seems to me that the Psalms give us the right to rejoice over the destruction of those who wickedly oppose Christ’s rule and kill His servants.

        • Anton

          Be glad that they are no longer around, yes. But rejoice that they will suffer forever? When you know, moreover, that you are just as bad in God’s eyes? This latter insight is New Testament, and it was not available to the people whose views we needed to learn from the Psalms, although not necessarily agree with. Look at the last two verses of Psalm 137, the “rivers of Babylon” psalm.

          • Martin

            Anton

            The Old Testament was just as much inspired as the New, and not simply the view of the men who wrote.

            The Lord will have vengeance on the wicked on His people’s behalf.

          • Anton

            Yes, but at risk of repeating myself it is not up to us to gloat when we are no better than the wicked in God’s eyes without the covering of Christ’s blood. The words of Job’s friends are in the Old Testament too but God was displeased with them.

          • Martin

            Anton

            To glory in God’s justice is not gloating.

      • Inspector General

        My dear Anton, what is this all about “…for you and I deserve it [Hell] too,…”.

        If that is the case, then you are doing something wrong. We know what is expected of us, so what is the problem? Do you lie, maybe cheat people (are you working in a cold call centre?). Is fornication your weakness, or maybe ‘laying with other men’. Are you a whore monger, or perhaps you worship a false idol (football team, for example). Do you covet your neighbour’s ass? If you do none of these, and the many more insufferables we are warned about, then there is no reason why your soul cannot proudly be escorted to paradise, by the duty angel of death, and club class too. One repeats, ‘proudly’. We have been offered salvation if we are with Christ – it is not dependant on a celestial roll of the dice, or a show of hands, you know!

        “Blessed be the smug in Christ” says the Inspector “for we have much to be smug about”

        • Anton

          Of none of those am I guilty except the occasional lie, but please heed that it was the self-righteous who bust a gut to obey the law whom Jesus castigated more than anybody else. It is not about what we do, it is about WHO WE ARE, and if you cannot see that we are sin then I cannot explain it to you, even if I had the muse of Homer. Look inside your (old) self and be horrified – and if you are not horrified then heed the Bible and be horrified that you are not horrified.

          • Inspector General

            ‘Anton’ doesn’t do you justice. You might want to consider changing it to some OT prophet. Plenty of guilt trippers there to choose from.

            One has thrown off the guilt of being alive, many years ago. To subscribe to the idea that our creator’s possibly greatest project, humanity, is a sin before his eyes is much more than faintly ridiculous, it is rather eccentric.

          • Anton

            Then there really was no point in Jesus’ crucifixion, was there?

            How do you match against the morality parts of Mosaic Law? Not only in the deed but in your head? Or, if you dare, ask those who know you best (yet are not dependent on you) what your worst points are.

          • Inspector General

            One does not have any ‘worst points’ as he has the nous to pick up from others any criticism, direct or oblique, and has done something about it.

            God sent us Jesus to instruct us, not to have the fellow nailed up. That the gift of salvation is still on offer despite the crucifixion just shows you how committed God is to humanity.

          • Anton

            The gospels in the New Testament make very clear that Jesus knew what his mission was.

            This is God’s world and one sin committed in it is enough to muck it up, as Adam and Eve found. Unless you have never committed any sin in all your years then you need divine forgiveness. Do not think that the passmark is 50%, ie doing more good deeds than bad. God does not want your deeds. He wants you. The good news is that you may approach him via Jesus Christ.

          • Inspector General

            And Mrs Heap said unto her son, “Be humble, Uriah, be very humble”

  • Ivan M

    Not buying their oil and starving them of funds, subsidies etc. will go a long way to blunting their threat. The Ummah is being artificially inflated, the Muslims are largely an incapable bunch of morons, many of whom for some unknown reason have an insufferable superiority complex.

    • Martin

      Ivan

      Without a doubt, their society, based upon their warlords religion has achieved very little. Without oil they’d have even less.

      • Ivan M

        Its not just oil Martin. Without the medical advances, and the current production of food towards which they have contributed nothing, except their sense of entitlement half of them would not exist. If there is another bunch without their sense of irony or gratitude, I have yet to see it.

  • Jihadi John is alive and well and being welcomed with open arms in towns and cities across Europe.

    • Pubcrawler

      Jihadi John. Real name: Legion.

    • Phil R

      You are right. There are plenty more willing to take his place. Hopefully only in the ME

  • Ian G

    Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? Ezekiel 18:33

    • The Explorer

      The Flood and the destruction of Sodom may have given God no pleasure. God did, on the other hand, realise that there are those who are just never going to turn from their way and live, however long you give them.

      On the basis of those examples, God would say the death in question was justified, even necessary, but that no death should be an occasion for rejoicing.

      • Royinsouthwest

        I would add the qualification that we can rejoice in the fact that he will no longer be able to commit any atrocities.

        • Ian G

          Again, I agree. I just think we should emulate Christ and the Father. If we are His, we should be like Him. If the “Gotcha!” attitude of some people that I don’t like. We forget that we are all sinners and without Christ we will receive our due wages as did Mohammed Emwazi.

      • Ian G

        I agree.

  • Sir Walter Tyrell

    In the UK the killing of this unrepentant criminal at the heart of a continuing criminal gang would certainly be covered by Criminal Law Act 1967, s.3(1), “A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime.” No doubt a similar law exists in Syria, to the extent that any law exists there at present.
    We do not have the death penalty in the UK and I do not wish to see it restored but we might also recall Exodus 21:12: “He that striketh a man with a will to kill him, shall be put to death.” And in 1563, the Church of England conceded, among other concessions to the rights of the Crown that “The laws of the realm may Christian men” and presumably a fortiori those men who had never claimed the benefits of the Church, “with death, for heinous and grievous offences.” (Articles of Religion, Art, XXXVII).

  • Politically__Incorrect

    No doubt there will saturated media coverage of this, along with a bit of bleeding-heart coverage of his life in Britain – “He was such a nice boy” the neighbours will say – “always ready to help and he loved football”. So bl**dy what?

    Nobody should kid themselves that this will stop the onslaught of this vile and subhuman death machine. We should hope that some will give up this death cult (unlikely) or we should continue to rid the Earth of it. Allah is just a man-made idol, we should not be afraid of him.

    • Little Black Censored

      “always ready to help and he loved football”
      No, I think he was “always a bit of a loner”.

      • Dreadnaught

        Probably a Goalkeeper then.

  • dannybhoy

    The sad thing is that in this country our cowed media is so afraid of upsetting Muslims who may be involved or want to get involved in the war and bloodshed. Then there are those who dance around the issue, they offer correction classes for wrong thinking brain washed Muslim youngsters, or preventing Muslims living in Britain from travelling to the war zones.
    Most people would say though, that by all means let them go, but they don’t come back. That’s not discrimination, that’s plain common sense.
    In fact that’s like having a court order that forbids a stalker or someone who has threatened harm from coming anywhere near the victim… We have laws that cover that, yet we allow back in those who wish our nation harm.
    So this sad and evil guy, born in the UK, having every opportunity in our liberal democratic multicultural society found a new career. As an actor and executioner, bravely cutting off the heads of helpless and bound aid workers.

    The sad thing is that it took the ‘no nonsense Yanks’ to take him out. Had they not it is quite possible that at some point in the future he may have slipped back into the UK, and been arrested.
    Human Rights lawyers would have swarmed to defend him (and at the same time milked the public purse).
    There would have been appeals and counter appeals. His human rights would have been asserted, and sympathisers would come forward to say that the British people and their Government were the guilty ones because our values and actions drove him to do what he did.
    Eventually he would have won his case; been awarded millions for hurt feelings, and become a role model for thousands of other young disaffected Muslims born in Britain…..
    That’s what’s so sad…

  • Dreadnaught

    It makes my toes curl every time I hear the poncified newsreaders refer to him as a ‘Brit’. He was never ever British and now (hopefully) happily may he have been blow to a million bits and peices in the shithole and dust that he deserved. I really hope he ends up in the belly of a dog.

    • IanCad

      Short and sweet.

  • David

    He deserved to die. But I rejoice not. What needed to be done has been done, that is all. Well done to all involved in fulfilling that necessary task.
    But the bigger battle will be fought with ideas, words, speeches and books.
    First we need a resurgence of Christian faith, orthodox Christian faith, amongst the nations of, what was, Christendom. Certainly we need to believe in our own culture, which whether you are Christian or Humanist, or Atheist, or don’t know, is a Judaeo-Christian derived culture.
    Next we need the west to heed the words of Bishop Michael Nazir- Ali, “that in the ME the choice (of leadership) is not between angels and monsters but between different kinds of monsters.” Like the Bishop, Anglicanism’s, only cross-cultural and politically astute Bishop, in my opinion, the west’s leaders need to get real.
    Then we need wise Islamic scholars to bring about a reformation of Islam. But this may never happen. In fact it probably will not.
    In which case we must accept that war is permanent, and so we must fight to win, not matter what the cost.

    • Dreadnaught

      wise Islamic scholars : If they were wise, they would have realised their own stupidity by now.

      • David

        Sounds like circular logic to me.

    • bluedog

      ‘But this may never happen. In fact it probably will not.” Indeed, as Islam is the perfect word of Allah it is impossible for man to reform.
      You say ”…we must accept that war is permanent, and so we must fight to win, not matter what the cost’. What measures do you have in mind?

      • David

        I fear that reform is impossible, indeed it was designed to be so I believe.

        What “measures” you ask ? Whatever is necessary to ensure the survival of western culture, in all its richness. By “western” I take a broad approach to our culture. Ask a military expert regarding the specific steps required. Certainly we need to learn to stop wasting energies, provoking hornet’s nests, by initiating war on those who are not attacking us. But those that do attack us must be destroyed.

        • bluedog

          Two recent events in France seem to be of critical importance in determining the future. Both Charlie Hebdo and the overnight attacks, as well as the 7/7 bombings in London, showed that the enemy is within and frequently native born. It seems quite clear that a very large and hostile demographic is emerging within Western nations that has not the slightest intent of accepting domestic values but actually seeks to impose its own alien values by force. As is routinely the case, the political class is both deaf to the discontent building and blind to the cause of the problem. Inevitably, this will change as it has with opinion in regard to the EU, where five years ago Eurosceptism was the reserve of a lunatic fringe. No longer, it’s gone mainstream. It follows that pressure on Islamic populations living within the West is likely to generate a round of tit-for-tat reprisals. Each crack-down will lead to a fresh atrocity, justifying the next crack-down. Ultimately the Islamic populations will be defeated, taking multiculturalism with them.

          • David

            Indeed.
            As the pressures on us mount, understanding will dawn on even the dim liberals and bonkers socialists, as to why Israel has to compromise its sincere wish to be a democratic, western-type nation. When at war standards have to be revisited, sadly.
            If preserving both a welfare state and free speech had been the priorities of the centre-left, then they should never have encouraged the myth of multi-culturalism; these western political ideas can flourish only in a society with a Judaeo-Christian heritage that has also travelled through a religious reformation and of course The Enlightenment.

  • Deimos

    “Days like these are far too few to cheapen with heavy handed words”.

  • carl jacobs

    This is basically a PR strike for Western consumption. Does it materially affect the war against ISIS? No. But it makes Westerners feel good. The real power of the drone strike is found in attacks on leadership. Most Westerners would never know the names of high value targets. But killing them disrupts command and control. Also, if you successively kill the target’s replacement, you create secession problems as people will fear to be promoted lest they quickly die. Remember that martyrdom is for the rank and file. The leaders prefer to keep living.

    This is however really just a containment strategy. It can’t achieve victory. ISIS is basically the return of medieval Asian barbarism. To defeat it would require the application of reciprocal barbarism. The Western problem is that it has spent centuries constructing armes that will refuse to do what would be required. And in truth you don’t want them to be willing to do it. That attitude would be far more dangerous to a domestic population than it would be to ISIS.

    So we are kind of stuck with this problem. ISIS is willing to commit atrocities, and short of a punitive expedition to kill them all, there aren’t any good available strategies in the Western toolbox to stop it.

    • David

      I appreciate the military analysis. What you’ve said makes total sense.
      So the two groups just continue staring at one another I suppose ?
      As we are not prepared to go in there and slaughter the lot, I guess it is now about geographical containment.
      Or what about a non-military solution, like cutting off the money supply I wonder. Is that feasible I ask myself ? Where are the financial experts when you need them ?

  • CliveM

    Yes it’s good riddance, but beyond its propaganda value this has little affect. Jihadi John was a nothing. He’s been a ‘dead man walking’ for a while and according to press reports a while ago, knew it. He hasn’t been sleeping easily.

    He was less then a cog in the IS machine, barely a spoke. It’s the machine that needs dismantled and it’s ideology discredited. We still aren’t seeing a strategy for that.

  • Inspector General

    ♪ “Now John rots under the desert sun,
    And his mother cries, when the morning comes,
    And there’s muslim mothers all over the world,”
    Weeping for their cold dead jihad boys and girls”
    ——————————-
    Gentlemen, this splendid occasion, if it is confirmed the wicked scoundrel is no more, should not pass without due celebration. So, in the spirit of inter faith gloating, perhaps Giles Fraser can give us St Pauls for the day, where a Christian service of triumphalism can be held, with invited imams, mullahs and assorted other muslim clerics present, as we sing the praises of the drones, and their goodly work. “Onward Christian Soldiers”, anyone?

    At the climax of the proceedings, the Archbishop of Canterbury can lift his eyes upwards, and scream, “Rejoice, Rejoice, for we have deaded him!”

    Then, with heads bowed, the muslims can all grudgingly respond. “Yes, verily, he is deaded”

    The theme to ‘Lawrence of Arabia’ reverberates throughout the edifice during.

    As Welby speaks, the choir sparks up with Handel’s Alleluia Chorus. Twice.

    Finally, the collection plate is passed around (notes only), and the service comes to an end. The Bishop of London takes the microphone and exclaims “Right, it’s over. You bearded lot, out! Out this minute!”

    Outside, the Metropolitan Police are on hand to search the departees for knives, axes, cleavers, scimitars…
    ——————————–
    Glory to God, and to the hegemony of Christian civilisation, what!

    • The Explorer

      Doesn’t the Bishop of London have a beard?

      • Inspector General

        I say, that’s damn awkward…

        • CliveM

          Watch what you say about beards Inspector. Some people on this site are a bit sensitive about them!

          They know who I mean.

      • David

        Yes, a large and bushy one, though well trimmed, as befits a Bishop. Some have remarked that he looks more like an Orthodox Bishop than a Church of England one. Personally I consider him a fine conservative Bishop, and I wish we had more of his ilk.

    • dannybhoy

      You are a very naughty Inspector. Inspector…

    • David

      A classic Sir, a classic.

    • Martin

      IG

      “(notes only)”

      You reminded me of the CoE’s “No Small Change” campaign of the mid ’60s. Of course that was when we had real money. We pupils were given the money (3d?) to pur in the offering & woe betide any who pocketed it instead.

  • preacher

    One has to wonder how the ‘Coalition’ forces new where he was. For a long time now, he has ceased to be a useful tool of his masters in recruitment terms.
    No doubt he was a Psychopath & who knows or cares what set him off.
    But when a killer ceases to be useful to his masters, he doesn’t just melt away, he becomes a liability & liabilities are useless, dangerous & need to be eradicated. Preferably by a protagonist from the opposition.
    It makes you wonder eh?.

    • CliveM

      Interesting theory. Far from implausible.

      • preacher

        Historically proven in many cases.

        • CliveM

          A new ‘martyr’ and a problem solved in one go eh?

    • Inspector General

      Yes, it is the case. John was in fact gunned down from a grassy knoll…

      • Ivan M

        Better keep your head low, imperialist. Many people, doctors, and police, among others met their ends all to soon after the “grassy knoll” incident.

        • Inspector General

          One is not completely averse to conspiracy theory. After much debate, analysis, reasoned conjecture. But in this case, the blighter was barely cold when it started.

          • Ivan M

            There were good reasons Inspector. One can start with 13 questions for the Warren Commission by Bertrand Russell.(It is available on the internet.) That great philosopher and sceptic’s questions have never been satisfactorily answered. In its place we have the police procedurals running to many thousands of pages. Ballistics, hair thickness and all such technical stuff. Very good if you are an impressionable teen as I wad when I read the condensed version. But it is useless when it comes to attaching guilt if the investigation is stacked. Actually serve as a distraction. Both Oswald and Ruby were patsies.

    • Ivan M

      May even be from the controlled opposition.

  • bockerglory

    Have been praying to God (psalm 83,) to strike & defeat Islam. Doing so for many months. God does listen and he is acting. Praying hard at the moment. Praying that millions of moslems reject Islam. Islam has failed. God uses unlikely vessels. The tide is about to turn …. Saudi oil won’t last too long either ….

    • The Explorer

      Unless Islam has a role to play in the End Times, whenever they may be. It’s possible that Islam will survive until then for that reason.

  • chiefofsinners

    Prophetic words from Cranmer, given tonight’s events in Paris. Pray for those involved.

    • Inspector General

      Look, Chief, multiculturalism is the way forward, so we are told by our betters…

      • CliveM

        Who can doubt the benefits?

      • chiefofsinners

        The term is not ‘betters’, it is gamblers. They have bet our safety and freedom on a multicultural dream. Read it and weep.

        • Inspector General

          One wonders how many of the victims were socialists, and acquiescent to lax irresponsible alien immigration. Perhaps they had a few moments of life left in them to reflect on their foolishness…

          • chiefofsinners

            But how many of the living will reflect on their foolishness? The news will be ‘managed’. Comments like these will be edited out, lest they cause unrest. Anyone spot the irony in that?

          • Inspector General

            Oh the French living are already considering their vote for next time. Of that we can be assured…

          • CliveM

            Someone will be organising a march for solidarity already. Muslim leaders and their next victims arm in arm, banners unfurled.

          • chiefofsinners

            Non, je ne regrette rien…
            The French multi culti genie is more ‘out’ than Linus.

          • Inspector General

            Well, maybe next time then. One is sure the immigrants can improve on their death toll…

          • The Explorer

            A pity Linus isn’t around to give his analysis of the situation. I’ll give it on his behalf. Of course there isn’t a problem. Chicken Little alarmism. “The sky is falling.” Squawk, squawk.

          • Inspector General

            And of course, “bring me a teenage boy”

          • carl jacobs

            But … was he really French?

          • The Explorer

            No idea, but that doesn’t matter. France, Germany, Britain: to think there is an Islamic problem is sheer Christian paranoia.

          • The Explorer

            Isn’t there a hostage situation still going on? In which case, those of the ilk you mention among the hostages will have ample time to reflect: as will those who opposed the level of immigration in the first place, but are still the victims of its consequences.

          • Inspector General

            It’s a racial thing, don’t you know. All white people are guilty. Anyway, if we are going to have the peace that Islam promises, some must be cruelly killed, as an example to the rest of us.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      Indwed we should pray. According to our security services we could be next..

  • The Explorer

    Jeremy Corbyn felt it would have been far better if Jihadi John could have been tried in a court of law. I’m sure those beheaded would have preferred a court of law as well, but I don’t know if they rated a mention.

    • CliveM

      As long as it was an American court.

  • Inspector General

    Might be an idea to avoid London in the next few days, chaps. Just saying…

  • The Explorer

    One assumes, given the timescales involved, that the death of Jihadi John and the events in Paris are not related? These appear to have been co-ordinated attacks, and that would have needed planning and preparation from before John was killed.

  • Inspector General

    “France closes its borders”. A few more years of the EU and it won’t be able to do that…

  • Dreadnaught

    Open borders? my arse!.. what the hell do they expect when hundreds of thousands of people are wandering around Europe.

  • Inspector General

    Hard luck Frenchy. Look, we’ve saved your hide twice in a hundred years, but you’re on your own this time…

  • Inspector General

    Take notice all. The Inspector General is retiring for the night, and he won’t be losing any sleep over socialist France…

  • carl jacobs

    Every additional attack radicalizes the whole of Europe. Every nationalist party benefits. And the secular governments will show themselves inadequate to the task. This is not good. This is how a race war starts.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      I’m sure our government will remind us that the attackers in Paris are not true Muslims. They will also try to inject some life into the ailing de-radicalisation programme, organise a clampdown on “Islamophobia” which has caused all this, and generally demand a national inter-cultural hugathon.

      • carl jacobs

        Precisely. That’s the problem. Secularism has no idea how to respond. But there are people out there who have a very clear idea of how to respond and these attacks simply increase their visibility. The attacks will create fear. Fear will create a counter reaction. Secularism will try (and fail) to contain it.

    • It’s not just the nationalists …. watch for the anti-capitalist anarchists who want chaos acting as agent provocateurs in an already volatile situation.

      • carl jacobs

        Anarchists have no purchase.

        • Agreed. However, they cause considerable background agitation. They raise expectations and they encourage disorder. They are always present in such situations.
          Research the website and activities of one such group called “No Borders”.

          • carl jacobs

            They are the “Occupy London” crowd that hasn’t taken a bath in three weeks on principle. They are an annoyance. The problem is fear being turned to rage by demagogues and an idiot secular gov’t with its thumb up its …. you know.

          • An all too familiar historical pattern.

          • carl jacobs

            Where have you been lately? The blog just isn’t the same without Jack to kick around.

          • Difficult to explain on a public blog, Carl. I’ll be an infrequent visitor for a while then, God willing, hope to return. Mind, I’ll be keeping an eye on you all and passing the occasional comment to keep you on track.

          • carl jacobs

            Fair enough. Just one thing. No details expected, and no details will be sought, but please only a ‘Yes’ or ‘No.’ … is our health OK?

          • Personal message …. deleted.

          • carl jacobs

            I understand. Forward then. In faith. Godspeed, Jack.
            I’ll pray for this.

          • God Bless you; but do you know how to pray the Rosary, Carl?
            *chuckle*

          • carl jacobs

            No, I tend to avoid idolatry.

          • grutchyngfysch

            Didn’t see, don’t need to know – but the Lord be with you Jack.

          • carl jacobs

            to keep you all on track.

            Oh. So you are becoming a Protestant then. And perhaps emigrating to America? That’s very encouraging!

      • Anton

        Hebdo divided the left into the free-speechers and the politically correct. Now the stakes are being ramped up.

        By the way, the concert hall where the terrorists opened fire was hosting a concert by a group called The Eagles of Death Metal. Sow the wind…

        • sarky

          Do a bit of research. They are not a ‘death metal’ band, the name is a joke.
          Anyway, shouldn’t matter, innocent people died doing something they love.

          • Anton

            Doesn’t matter to Satan, indeed. Can you imagine the reaction of even a 1950s secularist to the idea of a concert given by “the eagles of death metal”? So far has Western Civ fallen so quickly once the idea took hold that we make our own morality.

          • sarky

            So you don’t want to hear about the ‘cradle of filth’ concert I recently went to?
            Anyway all this is immaterial, innocent people died and that is the only thing we should concentrate on.

          • Anton

            Jesus agreed with you: those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish (from Luke 13).

          • Anton

            Apparently the group were playing “Kiss the devil” at the time this tragic manifestation of evil occurred.

          • sarky

            Right, so playing a song conjured up evil, but all those people praying not to be murdered conjured up………nothing. says it all really.

      • Ivan M

        Anarchists are a directionless force. Its the right that will step in and not too soon either.

  • No celebrations from Jack over the justifiable and necessary killing of a man possessed by evil and following a diabolical cause. We cannot know his fate with certainty but must leave this in the hands of the Justice and Mercy of the One True God.

    With Archbishop Cranmer’s permission, here is a copy of a short article on another blog:

    “For the second time in 2015, now much more violently, due to the betrayal of France and Europe by their own elites, due to decades of neglect by these same elites in which the ancient enemy, the always aggressive and diabolical and bloodthirsty Islam, introduced in the very arteries of the ancient lands of Christendom, exploded in the streets of Paris.

    France is under a state of urgency. Its borders are shut down. The body count is still not finished.

    Pray for France. At the end of this century it will be either Catholic or Muslim, there is no third option; but whatever the end result, the process will be painful and awful. God help the Eldest Daughter!

    Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat eis.”

    http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/

    • Ivan M

      France.! what have you done with your baptism? – John Paul II

  • Ivan M

    Tomorrow”s news: ISIL very bad, acme of evil, bomb Assad and Iran now – the Yahooligan

  • Anna

    The killing of this man is trivial in the larger scheme of things – he was probably just a scapegoat set up by the ISIS leadership, and publicising the event could prove counter-productive in the long term.

    As to his eternal destiny, we should grieve that a soul – a young man with gifts and talents has wasted his life for a destructive cause, and will have to give account before the Righteous Judge. I also grieve for his mother.

    To me this is a painful reminder that we Christians do so little to share our faith with Muslims. What if some Christian in his neighbourhood had taken the trouble to witness to him – then a soul for whom Christ died, might have been saved.

  • carl jacobs

    There are three insuperable problems in dealing with the kind of attack performed in Paris:

    1. The terrorists intended to die, so killing them doesn’t achieve much. They have simply become martyrs. There is no ability to inflict compensating injury on the attackers in this situation.

    2. The terrorists have already achieved far more than the law by itself could hope to redress. You can’t track down the conspirators and “balance the books” by prosecuting them. The visible damage and terror inflicted are too great. The terrorists win if this becomes restricted to courts and prosecution.

    3. The terrorists are trusting to Western restraint. Terrorism is easy to defeat if the gov’t is ruthless enough. In this case, the terrorists are playing to Western moral attitudes as a vulnerability and a weakness.

    I don’t know of any good answers to these problems. But someone in the Gov’t better start finding some soon. There are in fact many bad answers to these problems, and those answers are quite effective. If good answers aren’t found, then other answers will be implemented.

    One can establish some principles:

    1. This is not a police problem. It cannot be solved by the police. It’s a military problem. This is not a crime. It is an armed insurrection.
    2. The objective of the response must be to inflict damage on the cause of the terrorist and not just to kill the individual terrorist.
    3. Some civil liberties are going to have to be compromised for the duration. This especially refers to due process regarding surveillance and deportation of non-citizens.

    • CliveM

      Fourth problem: getting people to understand the problem:

      “”It’s Hollande’s fault, he shouldn’t have intervened in Syria!” the man shouted, according to French news agency AFP, citing the French president’s decision to take part in Western air strikes on IS.”

      Quote on BBC news.

  • The Explorer

    A couple of people I know who have always been convinced that Islam is the religion of peace (compared with violent Christianity) are now beginning to have second thoughts. It is still the religion of peace, but they are concerned at the ease with which it can be misinterpreted: and by so many.

    My own query is what effect this might have on Angela Merkel’s call to Europe to take yet more Muslim immigrants.

  • The Explorer

    “Like the ancient Roman, I seem to see the Tiber foaming with much blood.”

    Tiber? Thames? Rhine? Seine…?

    • Politically__Incorrect

      .Enoch Powell’s prophecy is now undeniable, albeit on the streets of Paris (for the moment). Still the media and our dhim-wit political classes will try to pretend the corpse of multi-culturalism is actually alive

      • Manfarang

        If you had read his book “Freedom and Reality” which I bought for one and six you will be aware that his predictions were way off the mark.

  • The Explorer

    This may wake up a few in the West (though probably not the decision makers) to the sort of threat Israel faces on a daily basis.

    • Ivan M

      And no doubt you should bomb Iran for them.

      • The Explorer

        That’s another issue, and I don’t know enough about it to have an opinion. I’m simply talking about the feeling of being under threat.

        • Ivan M

          The Israeli establishment in the form of Michael Oren diplomat and so called historian certainly didn’t feel that way when he said at the end of 2013 that they can live with Islamists in Syria and in fact prefer them to Assad who as you know protected 2 million Christians. I don’t have the link since I am posting from my mobile. This was around the time when the neocons were baying for Assad’s blood on the back of the alledged chemical attack at Ghouta blamed on the Syrian government. This certainly does not show an Israel quaking at the prospect of Islamists. Rather it is part of a pattern: the Israelis welcome chaos no matter at what cost to others, since on balance they can take advantage of it. Their deep cynicism materially many times worse than a thousand Linuses turned me off any protestations of goodwill from the likes of the Yahooligan and his sidekicks in Israel and America.

          • carl jacobs

            So the Israelis are to blame for ISIS. That never occurred to me before. Perhaps I am just too ignorant to realize that every atrocity in the Middle East is caused either directly or indirectly by the Israelis. Those calls of “This is for Syria” must have been in fact been Arabic phrases that mean “Its all the fault if the filthy Jews. They should have just let us kill them in 1948.”

            What the heck is a “Yahooligan?”

          • Ivan M

            They take advantage of it. They have their angle in S Lebanon, the Golan Heights and in painting all resistance from the Pallies as stemming from Islamic irredentism. Its a deeply cynical outlook. And furthermore one that previous leaders like Rabin would have advised against. For more than 40 years the Syrians had maintained a truce on the Golan. When the Syrians invaded Lebanon in 1976 to cut the PLO down to size, they did so with a wink from the Israelis. They are old chess players the old Israelis and the Syrians.

            The term Yahooligan is a play on Netanyahu’s name. The word itself is from the TV advertising for the Yahoo search engine some years ago.

          • carl jacobs

            They take advantage of it.

            Now there is a shock. Nation states taking advantage of opportunities. What will they think of next?

            painting all resistance from the Pallies as stemming from Islamic irredentism.

            Well, it basically is rooted in Arab irredentism – not to mention expunging 70 odd years of humiliation by killing a lot of Jews. If you think this is all about the Palestinians just wanting a homeland they can call their own, you are sadly deceived. This is about destroying the Crusader state plunged like a dagger into the heart of Islam.

            For more than 40 years the Syrians had maintained a truce on the Golan.

            Oh, you mean the forty years since they invaded the Golan in 1973. Do you realize how close the Syrians came to breaking though into Israel proper on the first day of the war? Do you understand what would have happened if they had succeeded?

          • Ivan M

            The Golan belongs to Syria.

          • carl jacobs

            Hrmm. Do you see any Syrian tanks on the Golan?

  • steroflex

    Big Question which nobody dares face directly:
    Is this pillock whatever his name is acting as a true Muslim?
    Do you know what? I cannot think of an example of the Prophet cutting off people’s heads in cold blood or going on u Tube to do it. Can you?
    On the other hand there is a long tradition of murder and violence right at the heart of Islam (three out of the four Rightly Guided Caliphs were murdered in public). Islam was indeed spread, defended, and preserved through the sword.
    Christianity was not. Instead the early Christians, without exception, suffered for their faith and it went viral.

    • The Explorer

      Try Muhammad and the Qurayza Jews. Figures vary between four hundred and eight hundred beheaded. Supervised by Muhammad, if not done in person. Not on You Tube, but only because the Internet didn’t exist back in those days.

      • Mike Stallard

        Well, were the heads paraded proudly round? I thought he just ordered their execution. Lots of cases in history when military commanders (cp Henry V) order the execution/murder of prisoners/traitors. We did the same to Lord Hawhaw.

        • The Explorer

          I don’t know. The record says Muhammad ordered the digging of the trenches into which the four hundred?/six hundred?/eight hundred? were then driven before being beheaded by Muhammad’s soldiers. From what I can gather, he was watching the proceedings.

          What then happened with the heads, I’m unclear. However, on a separate occasion, when Muhammad’s servant Abdullah cut off Abba Hakam’s head Muhammad rejoiced that he would rather have had that head than the choicest camel in all Arabia.

          One can’t imagine the Christian Christ saying that kind of thing; although it would be no surprise from the Islamic Christ (who is similar only in name).

          • Mike Stallard

            One thing which we can certainly agree on is that the Prophet Mohammed and Jesus the Messiah were completely different people.
            I often wonder what would have happened if in 622 when, the night before the hejira, the Prophet swapped cloaks with his friend to avoid being murdered, he had been killed.
            Having looked at the Koran in English with a commentary, again in English I am afraid, I reckon he might well have gone down as Saint Makarios the Apostle to the Arabians. It is only after the hejira that he changed (and after the death of his beloved wife Khadija too).
            I am so glad that there is someone of your knowledge to discuss stuff with!

          • Ivan M

            Khadija was the woman who convinced Mohamed that the voices in his head were from God. Apparently Mohamed had serious doubts about this as any pre-lunatic would and was crying all the time about djinns and devils. Khadija being a shrewd businesswoman could see the marketing possibilities of a competing religion to that the Meccans already had. Quite probably if not for her we would have been spared the lunacy.

            I.note that I may be wrong about this and would appreciate any corrections

          • Mike Stallard

            It is the attitude.
            A friend of mine believes fervently in windmills and solar. If you so much as question that, it destroys her entire way of life and she gets very cross very fast. I shut my gob.

            Another friend is deeply Christian in, frankly, a rather stupid kind of way. Again, it is no use questioning them: too threatening!

            With my Muslim friends, I am treated with a courtesy and affection which impresses me a lot. Their absurd generosity is lovely! God’s love shines through their beliefs, even though a lot of those (I am a Catholic for heaven’s sake) are pretty primitive and yes wrong.

            I see Islam as a bank of clouds blotting out the sun. But quite often the sun breaks through the clouds and produces heat, light and warmth. (The same is true, of course, for all our human religions.)

    • Ivan M

      It would appear that the Rightly Guided Caliphs were not so rightly guided after all.

      • steroflex

        (:<)))))

  • maigemu

    Remind me please. In which level of hell did Dante place the likes of these two?

  • len

    The Gates of Hell will have swung wide open to receive ‘Jihadi John ‘and his ultimate reward will be to reside there for all eternity.