Mrs Proudie
Meditation and Reflection

Gender neutral pronouns: Mx Proudie laments the abolition of Mr, Mrs, Miss and Ms

 

Goodness! A little bird tells me of a disturbing development in Oxford. The socialist city council have decided, without consultation, to do away with honorifics on all official documents, so no more Mr, Mrs, or Miss, and not even the ghastly Ms, is to be exempt. Instead, all will be ‘Mx’, though how one pronounces this abomination is not clear. The Archdeacon thinks this is part of the leftist plan to abolish the family and do away with gender, severing all links with the past and shifting gear towards their Brave New World. Such rot! For so long as I am wearing the Church’s one foundation, I shall remain Mrs. Proudie, and all honorifics will be honoured, if not lauded, in Barchester.

When one thinks of Swedish Christians one thinks of lambs desperate to lie down with lions or turkeys voting for Christmas. Too many pickled herrings befuddling the brain perchance? Be that as it may, we received a request from one Swedish Church to contribute to a scheme for bringing peace and harmony to the Middle East – to whit, bombarding the Islamic State with bibles. One supposes a leather bound King James dropped from a great height might knock some sense into those hotheads and distract them from throat-slitting, but it is a bit hit-and-miss in terms of accuracy. One could send a drone, but Diane Abbott is probably busy. My Lord the Bishop consulted with the Archdeacon, Mr. Slope and Mr. Harding: the latter thought it a worthy enterprise, one that could do no harm; the Archdeacon pooh-poohed the scheme and suggested something more explosive, like a vat of chicken tikka masala, and Mr. Slope refused to be pinned down (which must be a first). A decision had to be made, so I made it. No bouncing bibles from Barchester, just stale hobnobs double-baked to a recipe by Barnes-Wallis. Fiendish I know…

I see Mr. Choudary published his plan for a Sharia Britain before being thrown into the Clink. One does not approve of the ravings of a fanatic, but his advice on biscuit making is sound. If more people baked hobnobs the world would be a better place. It worked wonders for Garibaldi.

Mr. Slope is beside himself at the news of Miss Trott and Mr. Kenny’s gold medals. Something to do with Mr. Kenny’s elasticated outfit which, I believe, fitted like a glove. Have to confess, I thought “Trott and Kenny” – as the press so rudely refers to them – were characters out of Mapp and Lucia, but I lead a sheltered life.

Countess de Courcy is about to leave for Canada. She has been appointed lady-in-waiting to the Duchess of Cambridge, and in preparation is over-indulging in maple syrup. Not good for the figure, but then she doesn’t have one. A royal visit is always cheering, and hopefully the loyal colonials will do plenty of that as the cavalcade sweeps by – that means you, dear Avi. I did detect a degree of ‘sniffy-ness’ when her ladyship told me the news – she is conscious of her illustrious pedigree (which includes at least eight noble lords beheaded for treason) and feels the duchess is, well… ‘not one of us’. Has she not read ‘Cinderella’? It’s the government’s text-book for social mobility and here we have the perfect example. Look at Glenda Jackson – from nothing to nobody in one lifetime – how more mobile could one get?

Bertie Stanhope admitted to having recently joined the Labour Party – though he’s never done a day’s work in his life. Alas, his vote in the current leadership contest will not count and he has written to Sir Abraham Haphazzard, asking him to challenge the High Court ruling. I cannot see why bland, train-spotting Mr. Smith wants to lead such a rag-bag of vegan lentil-weavers and Trotskyite Lesbian dance-collectivists, but each to his (or her) own. Any party that welcomes such exotics – and indeed Bertie Stanhope – is not one I would care to join.

My round-up of gossip this week has a decidedly domestic flavour, give or take the odd excursion. For once it has been nice not to dwell on American politics and Brexit affairs. It is good to be British, is it not? The only thing missing to round off the summer and make it perfect is Mr. Blair’s appearance at The Hague, but that isn’t going to happen. Ah well… one can but dream. For now I must dash – it’s bath night at Hiram’s Hospital and I promised to replenish the soap-on-a-rope which keeps disappearing into a black hole somewhere. Perhaps that explains why Mr. Slope has been slithering about in a most peculiar fashion of late. Until next week, may your anchor hold in the storms of life and remember Deuteronomy 23:1 at all times. Adieu dear friends, adieu!

  • Inspector General

    Good day to you, Mrs Proudie. Yes, indeed, the latest initiative from the LGBT walking wounded is in full swing…

    They’ve captured a whole school in America, don’t you know. Details here…

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/08/18/this-school-wants-to-scrap-gender-specific-pronouns-for-students/comments/#disqus_thread

    Interestingly, the culprits so responsible are proud(ie) and out in their readiness to take over the world. Such is their confidence, they have published their details, including their email addresses…

    http://www.transstudent.org/staff

    And no, the Inspector has not contacted any of the demons. it would only make them feel important in their derangement…

    • The Explorer

      Thanks for the link. Quite sweet, some of them. Others, less so. Kai River Blevins are in a class of their own.

      • Inspector General

        “Emet is a transgender femme pansexual man from New York City.”

        One just weeps at the misfortune these wretches are cursed with…

        • Politically__Incorrect

          Indeed IG. One can’t help but feel a little pity for these messed-up people. Heaven knows they need psychiatric help, not encouragement and indulgence from the political elite. Apparently, insanity no longer includes blatant self-delusion and total detachment from reality. It’s now the rest of us who are off our hinges.

          • Malcolm Smith

            I made this observation myself. The activists are attempting to strip away the laws and policies which have been set in place to protect the transsexuals themselves, and this will not end well.
            http://malcolmsmiscellany.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/the-lunatics-are-taking-over-asylum.html

          • magnolia

            It seems unlikely that they will ever get the help that they so badly need. Indeed those trying to help might risk social censure, or professional suicide.

            Meanwhile Misery spreads its venomous tentacles….

      • Inspector General

        By the way, the truly insane who don’t know whether they are male or female like to be referred to as ‘they’. One joshes you not…

        “Tan Handres is a current undergrad, activist, and illustrator located outside of Washington, D.C. As a high school student, Tan found it difficult to communicate their experience as a non-binary identified person with their peers. In college, they became involved in GSM and trans-oriented student organizations,”

        • Martin

          IG

          He’s into 2G digital mobile telecoms?

          • Inspector General

            Me neither…

  • Dreadnaught

    The jailing of the grinning Chowdown is long over due but gives him the perfect opportunity to motivate an entire prison. Not putting him total isolation will be like jailing Adabolajo and giving him back his blood soaked cleaver.

    • HedgehogFive

      That reminds me of Sergey Nechayev, imprisoned in Russia in the 19th century.

      Quotes from the Wikipedia Article:

      The character Verkhovensky in Dostoyevsky’s anti-nihilistic novel, Demons, is based on Nechayev.

      The playwright Edvard Radzinsky suggests that many revolutionaries have successfully implemented Nechayev’s methods and ideas – including Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin.[

  • Orwell Ian

    The Oxford directive is far worse than the Archdeacon would have you believe Mrs P. It advances the cause of extremist equality, the leftist plot to abolish all trace of difference and do away with common sense. Socialism is the ultimate leveller don’t you think? Left to its own devices it will level the nation if not the entire planet.

  • Politically__Incorrect

    I don’t live in Oxford but if I did I would be tempted to return any mail sent to Mx……… back to the council with “Not known at this address” on the envelope. Like most people I have a title “Mr”, not “Mx”. “Mr” is my proper title and anything else is simply not addressed to me. Time for ordinary people to stand up to this gender insanity.

    • Eustace

      You have no title at all.

      “Mr” is a mere convention. It isn’t a legal title. You have no right to it by law.

      By all means send your mail back. It won’t stop whatever the legal notice may be taking effect.

      • Politically__Incorrect

        It’s not a matter of law. it’s the title I use and acknowledge. Why then are we asked our title when filling in forms? My bank account name starts with “Mr” not “Mx”. It matters to people what they are called. The logic of Oxford council is that they can call people anything they like as long as it is sent to their address. If someone misidentifies me I am either going to tell them my correct title or ignore them till they use it. I’m not sure how to pronounce “Mx” but if anybody at my council were to talk to me using it, they would get a good toasting.

        • Eustace

          Who cares what you like and dislike? Since when was everything about you?

          Personally I don’t mind if you send back all bills and notices addressed to “Mx”. You’ll be the one who has to justify yourself in front of a judge when you’re sued for non-payment. “Waaah! I don’t like being called Mx!! Waaah!” is unlikely to be accepted as a valid defence.

          Of course if any cases like that make it to court, some Christian defence league lawyer will probably represent you free of charge and try to maintain that calling you anything except “Mr” is an abuse of religious freedom. If he can show the judge the passages in the Bible where all Christian men are obliged to call themselves “Mr”, perhaps he’ll even get you off. On the other hand…

          • Inspector General

            All LGBT privileges gained over recent years have not been acquired through society’s acceptance or even encouragement. They all have to be policed by a currently pro degeneration judicial system. When we leave the ECHR, we’ll have back the judges the people want, but thankfully not people like you…that would be as silly as things are getting and have got, right now…

          • Merchantman

            Agreed doesn’t ‘the West’ realise how daft it looks to the rest of the world. Just you wait though when the sun sets on this Gendix business we will wake up and wonder why we swallowed all this nonsense.

          • dannybhoy

            We swallowed or endure it because our leaders imposed it on us. We can no longer have confidence that our elected leaders have the good of the country at heart. They now believe that minorities must be heard, and their needs or demands must come before those of the majority.

          • Richard Harrold

            Oh dear, another backward homophobe who thinks we can roll back equality and return to the dark days of rampant discrimination…

          • Inspector General

            The country’s sliding to the right, or hadn’t you noticed…

          • Politically__Incorrect

            The whole of Europe is moving to the right Inspector. The right are set to win in Austria, both the re-run presidential election and the general election. Other European countries, particularly those in Eastern Europe are going the same way. This is happening because of the EU and it’s determination to impose its leftist ideology on its members while totally disregarding the views of the population. Watch carefully. The dominos are going to start falling.

          • Richard Harrold

            Not really, there’s little evidence of it… and you can’t claim Brexit as a victory for the right, as it was won mainly in old core Labour areas. The Tory south mostly voted Remain.

          • CliveM

            I think you need to check your facts. Conservative voters voted leave in higher numbers then Labour. Indeed it was labour London strongholds like Islington that voted remain the highest.

          • Richard Harrold

            I’m in the Tory South, in the heart of Surrey, God’s Own County. Almost all constituencies in Surrey, Sussex, Hampshire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire and Gloucestershire voted by a large majority to remain (much to my disappointment). It was core Labour areas like South Wales, the West Midlands, the Potteries, Greater Manchester, West Yorkshire and the Tees/Tyne area which arguably won the vote.

          • magnolia

            You are accurate there. Farming areas tended to vote leave interestingly, and the more suburban areas thought their economic interests lay in the status quo. Many people voted mostly for what they considered their own best economic interests, and principled votes were few, sadly, and so the scare stories spoke effectively. While some may lose jobs, overall we will thrive. It does seem that many people are rather gullible.

            Interestingly the whole editorial board of Prophecy Today was brexit as all the prophecies were coming that God wanted Britain to leave and had a special plan for us that necessitated that.

          • Richard Harrold

            I was amazed to see huge support for Remain in some of the most agriculturally-dominated constituencies down here – it was actually in urban areas that Brexit seemed to do better, although not in Brighton or most of London. As for bringing divine prophecy into politics, don’t even get me started. I hope such moronic American-style thinking is not gaining any meaningful foothold in British political discourse.

          • Go stroke your pussy and take your insults elsewhere.

          • Richard Harrold

            Insults? It’s the idiots who view homosexuality as abnormal who are insulting and damaging to society.

          • Anton

            Calling people idiots is not insulting?

          • Richard Harrold

            Not when they’re being idiots.

          • Anton

            Who decides whether they are idiots?

          • Richard Harrold

            Anyone trying to deny that sexuality is conditioned before birth is manifestly an idiot. The idea that it is a choice has been comprehensively debunked. Therefore, anyone supporting that view is rightly denounced as an idiot.

          • Anton

            In other words, YOU decide whether they are idiots. Thank God you are not in charge.

          • Richard Harrold

            No… their denial of scientifically proven fat decides that they are idiots.

          • Anton

            You had better give the scientific references then. In particular, has sexual abuse before the age of memory been disproven as a causative factor, and if so, how?

          • Richard Harrold

            Yes, it has been disproven, there is no correlation between the two whatsoever.

          • Anton

            Thank you; please provide a reference for the assertion that it has been disproven.

          • magnolia

            Those awful days in the 70s and 80s when people were concerned about mental health and thinner and healthier. When they ate proper meals and sought lasting relationships and valued male-female complementarity, the family and bringing children up in loving families.

            They were better in some ways and people knew that Freudian ideas rather well described some of the ways people go askew. Dirty talk and analism were rightly looked down upon. Now you can barely turn on the radio without smutty anal jokes that are tedious and childish.

          • Richard Harrold

            When poverty and disease were rampant, food was awful, malnutrition far too common… the idea that we should oppress 10% of our population for being what they are is ludicrous.

          • magnolia

            The idea that we should oppress people who are ill by withholding help and treatment is outrageous. Who spoke of oppression. Oppression might be hunger, throwing in prison, beating, torture, things like that. It is not telling a biological man that he isn’t a woman, or saying that the man-woman bond is normative. Nor is it the non-hardship of not having sexual relationships, despite the nonsense from some quarters.

            Nor is the 10% accurate. It has been thoroughly discredited, though the news seems very slow to seep through to some.

            People should not be absurd and emotive.

          • Eustace

            The unspoken premise upon which everything you say rests is “I am the archetypal perfect being so I get to decide what’s normal and how to define disorder and disease”.

            Hence the outrage when others just ignore you and decide for themselves what’s right for them.

            Hell hath no fury like a heterosexual narcissist scorned.

            One phrase alone completely debunks your pontificating certainties. “Nor is the non-hardship of not having sexual relations…” says it all.

            It’s the sort of phrase that only a frigid old maid of a Christian could come out with.

            Unless you’re naturally asexual, I rather suspect we’re looking at the numbing effect of knicker elastic wound far too tight and cutting off all feeling below the waist. Or you could be Opus Dei and have bulk-purchased a whole range of sado-masochism sorry, self-mortification gear from their “Ecstacy Through Martyrdom” catalogue.

            A belt of nails (points inwards, of course) with a barbed cilice around each thigh will certainly deaden all sensation from navel to knee. What better way of keeping your physical responses in line with your stunted emotions?

            It clearly works for you however. And with an absence of feeling and a penchant for rules and punishment, there may even be career opportunity in it for you. Have you ever thought of becoming a prison warden? The position in Cell Block H is already taken, but scrape your hair back into a severe chignon, dip your bra in Sarsens and practeece an Ozzoi acceint and I’m sure they’ll take you on in another wing.

            Who knows how many souls you’ll win for Christ with a captive audience, a complete lack of empathy and a whole range of weaponry at your disposition?

          • magnolia

            Little sympathy for people obsessed by their own private parts, and malevolent towards females.

            There it is. Of course that doesn’t translate to your silly imaginings.

            Go look for sympathy elsewhere. Others are in front of you in the queue, hundreds of thousands of needier people. Nor anyway do I find you at all “sympa” and find all this stuff about “la douce France ” with Charles Trenet doing mimsy hand gestures absurd and hugely self-indulgent.

          • Eustace

            And your contempt changes what, exactly?

            Society has moved on and no longer shares your values. Your world is crashing down around your ears, and your solution is to bitch at me about it?

            Survey the ruins and understand that no matter how much pleasure you derive from insulting me, the defeat of your generation is final and the edifice of exclusion, prejudice and hatred that you worked so hard to build is being dismantled brick by brick. There’s nothing you can do about it.

            Despite all your complaining online, the pace of change is accelerating. Today it’s equal marriage and gender transition. Who knows what exciting changes tomorrow will bring? Rushing about like Chicken Little and squawking about how the sky is falling merely makes you look out-of-touch and incapable of coping with change.

            And we all know what happens to dinosaurs.

          • magnolia

            You derive pleasure from the destruction of the family?

            I find family a pleasure, if at times a challenging and exhausting one. No, families and the Christian church will flourish, because Jesus.

            I wouldn’t read anything into magnolia other than a mild joke about anonymity and inconspicuousness, and a liking for the flowers. Anyway I don’t identify with it. It is facade, Linus.

          • Eustace

            “The destruction of the family” is one of the Christian right-wing’s apocalyptic slogans designed to persuade the public that some kind of catastrophe is looming.

            Of course the reality of the situation is that our concept of what constitutes a family is changing to include same-sex couples and the children they care for as well as situations where divorce and remarriage have introduced step-parents and step-siblings into the family unit.

            The family isn’t being destroyed, but our idea of what constitutes a family is broadening. Talking about the “destruction of the family” is therefore utter nonsense. Or rather it’s a political strategy.

            Just like the Nazis told the Germans that Jews were working for the destruction of their mythical Aryan race, Christians are trying to persuade us that the LGBT community is plotting to destroy heterosexuality.

            Unfortunately the Germans fell for the Nazi’s propaganda. But with that terrible lesson to serve as an example, I think it’s unlikely our society will make a similar mistake. Nobody is trying to “destroy the family”. Indeed the concept of family is flourishing.

            In terms of my “considered take” on abortion and adoption and women, etc., I don’t feel compelled to justify my positions to you. Reproductive issues are not something I feel particularly strongly about because I have no children and never will. Let those who reproduce argue about that sort of thing.

            And as for how I value women, they have exactly the same value as men. They’re human beings and all humans have value. I don’t find women physically or romantically attractive, but the same is also true of many men. Their value as humans is not determined by my attractions. Why would it be?

          • Your post tells us more about you Eustace than the lady you are trying to smear.

          • Eustace

            What, you mean you can tell I don’t like emotionally constipated prudes who think that their inability to make intimate connections with others is somehow laudable and praiseworthy?

            She who calls herself “magnolia”, which is to say pink and white and pure and unsullied by all human contact, wants us to think she’s the UK’s answer to the “Blessed Virgin”. Minus the compassion, of course, because real Christianity is all about self-control and cold-hearted condemnation. And minus the love, because who has time for irrelevant emotions?

            I wonder though … because of her insistence that abstinence is no hardship, could it be that she’s taken Christ’s words about the ablation of all body parts that lead one into temptation a little too literally? It would certainly explain her dismissive pooh-poohing of other people’s intimate relationships as self-indulgent and emotive nonsense.

            Or perhaps it’s just a question of incomplete discovery. Does the map of her nether regions resemble a pre-Columbian representation of the western Atlantic, with a large blank expanse of nothing broken only by the words “here be dragons”?

            The Santa Maria de la Immaculada Concepción has clearly never sailed up her channel. So how could she possibly know how it feels to have a Genoese sailor and his crew plant their flags in her terra incognita?

            A tendency to condemn from a position of utter ignorance is perhaps the worst personality fault of the mustachioed Christian virgin. Churches are chock full of Ann Widdecombes and other such thin-lipped and overweight viragos only too willing to berate others for taking advantage of opportunities that never came their way.

          • And this coming from you Eustace, someone who’s never slain any dragons and gone on to plant his flag in the terra incognita, who’s only ever sailed in a dinghy up and down the Suez Canal. You know nothing about the hot, fertile grounds of the Niger Delta.
            I think Magnolia is married w four children!

          • Eustace

            Four children? Well that would explain the lack of sensation and interest in intimate relations. On both sides. A wizard’s sleeve is all very well in its own way, I’m sure. But perfectly useless from the point of view of a male whose anatomy demands a closer fitting garment.

            If the ravages visited on a woman’s body by childbirth are accompanied by a drop in her husband’s testosterone levels, then I imagine on both sides they’ll be content to let their marriage degrade into a relationship of convenience. But if the gentleman remains as hormonally active as ever, something’s going to give. There are plenty of river deltas he can sail his boat up if the one he’s used to silts up.

          • magnolia

            Yes. I don’t think he has once managed to show anything other than deep unrelenting hatred towards all women on here. Interestingly he doesn’t even bother to defend himself against the charge of malevolence towards women which I thought he just might; I am not sure he even sees it as undesirable. His only notions of women are wound around vile imagery. The guy is ill. What worries me more is that the number of women who post on here has significantly decreased since his rantings started, and he was vilely mean to the TGI Monday women, even finding disability a matter for vilification. So much for PC. PC only when it suits his agenda.

          • He expects everyone else to be PC , but when it comes to his utterances to us it goes out the window as he just can’t contain himself.

          • Richard Harrold

            The 10% figure is far more accurate than the rather lower estimates of the ONS etc. All mammal species exhibit homosexual tendencies – it is believed that it is a measure to control population and ensure that young are cared for, that it isn’t left entirely to parents.

          • magnolia

            Not clear what the figure is. My memory is 2-3% but that might be a Western average, and of the 20th to 21st Century at that. It is interesting however that it is 0% in some communities,not least island communities rather cut off from the modern zeitgeist, and communities based around survival, and significantly higher in others. Hollywood for example.

            Also the “gay voice” which we can all call to mind is apparently far more cultural than inherited, as evidenced by the fact that some men can turn it off and on at will, some men newly self-identified as gay adopt it, and men just coming out of anaesthetic, who have it in normal life, speak normally, according to nurses.

            So the interface between nature and nurture is confusing, and that before you read the work of healers and psychotherapists and deliverance ministers, and the testimonies of those they have helped. Sometimes the trouble travels down the family line, I believe. What is clear is that it is a “dead end” and the sadnesses tend to accumulate towards the end of life.

          • Richard Harrold

            There isn’t a single nation in the world that doesn’t have a gay segment of its population. It’s all about repression and criminalisation. Even in the most enlightened Western nations, a huge number of LGBTQ people are afraid to come out, for fear of how their families, friends, colleagues, employers and wider communities will react if they do. The LGBTQ community estimates that 10% is a realistic figure.

          • Phil R

            ” what they are”

            No, what they chose

          • Richard Harrold

            Sexuality is not a choice. Homosexuality occurs naturally in all mammal species.

          • Phil R

            Behaviour is always a choice.

            You may want to do something. But wanting something in itself does not make the behavour right or moral.

          • Richard Harrold

            Sexuality and behaviour are not the same thing… but nothing is immoral unless it creates victims. Paedophilia, of course, cannot be practiced without victimisation – but what two consenting adults of the same sex do in private is simply not a moral matter.

          • Phil R

            Only two?

            Why not 3 or 30?

            Sexuality is a desire. Choosing to act on any desire is always a choice

          • Richard Harrold

            Three? Why the heck not? I’ve read of some bisexual folk who are in three-way relationships. 30 kind of ceases to be a relationship and becomes just a gangbang though. Sexuality is built in from birth… all mammal species have a gay segment of their population, we’re the only one that has a hang-up about it.

          • Eustace

            Ah, so you think Brexit will herald a new dawn of arch-conservatism, do you?

            Can’t see it myself. Apart from a brief interlude during the Thatcher years, Britain has been at the forefront of social liberalization in Europe since the end of WWII. There’s no reason why that should change. If anything, the pace of change may even accelerate.

            Mx May is no Mx Thatcher. She voted for equal marriage.

          • Inspector General

            Don’t see it then. It will only upset you further (if that’s possible…)

        • Maalaistollo

          You could try pronouncing it ‘Minx’.

        • Inspector General

          It was so much easier when they were persecuting just one Christian baker. It’s a different matter when we are ALL Christian bakers…

      • Didn’t the old legal address used to be something like this for example John of the family Johnson.

        • Eustace

          The “old legal address” for the ancestors of most of those who post here would have been “firstname the tradename”. For example, Baldrick the Bogtrotter or Mary the Muckraker.

          Mr and Mrs were the preserve of the gentry.

          Of course the Revolution in France changed all that, although honorifics had already started to trickle down the social pile by the mid 18th century. Then it became normal to accord them to tradesmen and upper servants. But for most of you, it’s only since Regency times that you’ve been referred to as Mr and Mrs, and then only grudingly. So there’s no great tradition of the practice in Britain. Not for most of you.

          Why not then let these “titles” revert to the County families they were originally created for, while all you descendants of the urban proletariat, and the peasantry, and the Irish, proudly call yourselves by a more forward looking, inclusive and democratic name?

          Mx fits the bill perfectly. There’s no need for gender differentiation among people who can’t afford couture and wouldn’t know how to wear it if they could. As the average Brit looks like a sexless and genderless sack of spuds anyway, why confuse things by making it incumbent on others to guess which honorific to use? The number of times I’ve called a large-breasted, pregnant Brit “Miss” only to find out that she’s actually a man with moobs and a beer belly is quite disturbing. Mx would fix the problem once and for all. I commend the Oxford authorities for their very astute sensing of how the future will go.

          • Thank you for the enlightening information, but I’m going to have to disagree with you on Mx. You and the rest of the barmy ‘forward’ thinkers are nothing but a bunch of mixed-up minds who ought not to be positively promoting God’s mistakes as normal, but should be instead searching for cures.

          • Eustace

            Well there’s a bit of Christian honesty, inadvertent though it may be. God makes mistakes. He is not omnipotent. And we can correct them, because of course we are greater than God.

            Out of the mouths of babes, sucklings and vicious and hateful old women the truth springs forth.

          • But, that’s not what I said you twisted old goat. Man seeks to correct but as yet have failed to do so. Man indeed thinks he’s greater than God, you’re right there. We should accept God’s mistakes (we have done mainly, you no longer get bullied much or thrown in clink.) but promoting God’s mistakes as normal is just so wrong. It’s something on the list of Agenda 21 and The New World Order that ends in death and destruction.

          • sarky

            How do you know you’re not gods mistake?

          • I might well be.

          • magnolia

            For the ultra-nationalist French like Linus “la gloire” has taken a knocking this Olympics. There they are, paying their successful athletes, and with a larger population, and Linus knows that those who are representing our nation that he considers men with moobs and beer bellies and genderless female sacks of spuds are beating the French into oblivion.

            Oh whoops. Not the narrative at all!

      • Old Nick

        One could not expect Mr. Eustace to understand something which is fundamentally a matter of courtesy.

    • Dreadnaught

      Those gender confused could be addressed as M?.

      • Politically__Incorrect

        As long as it only applies to the gender confused, and not to everybody else I’d go along with that

        • Inspector General

          Cutting edge thought from Big Gay is that ‘binary’ has had its time. However, the trannies disagree, and you can’t really blame them for that…

          • Politically__Incorrect

            To be honest Inspector, I don’t even know what “binary” is except in computer programming. I have little interest in trying to understand what it’s other meaning is.

          • Inspector General

            Man and Woman, dear chap. Or maybe male and female. Then there’s the genitals. It really comes down to which queer is whining and what about…

        • Dreadnaught

          May be then we the minority majority might be left alone.

  • len

    There seems to be a madness affecting planet Earth not only in the inhabitants but in the environment also.Time itself seems to be disordered as seasons merge and conflict with each other.Droughts, floods, and famines ravage the Earth. Barbarism beheadings and unimaginable torture by those on a mission to serve their god who’s desire can only be satisfied with death.

    The world is sliding into chaos as man is seemingly without restraint of any kind at all….God is lifting His Hand of restraint over evil…..

    Do not bother with ‘the deckchairs’ they are all going down with the ship ..

    • bluedog

      Proper little ray of sunshine today, Len, aren’t you? Always look on the bright side of life.

      • sarky

        Da dum…….da dum, da dum, da dum.

    • Eustace

      So what’s the problem? If you believe that you’ll end up in paradise where your god will adjust your memory so you don’t remember anyone who wasn’t saved, why should you care what happens to the world or anyone in it besides you?

      You’ll be alright. And that’s all that counts, isn’t it? Otherwise why would you be a Christian? It all comes down to self-interest at the end of the day. An accelerated apocalypse should suit you perfectly. Surely it’s better to enter paradise sooner rather than later.

      Unless of course you’re scared you may have to suffer before you get there…

      Talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too. You want salvation AND and an easy and comfortable life?

      Picked the wrong saviour then, didn’t you?

      • dannybhoy

        “Otherwise why would you be a Christian? It all comes down to self-interest at the end of the day. ”
        In a way you’re right because the creature will always be dependent on the Creator. That the Creator endows the creature with intelligence and the ability to choose, is a gift that some use wisely and others spurn.
        It is when a person (and I include you in that), becomes aware that of themselves they have messed things up, that they have failed to find the happiness and contentment that self absorption seeks, that actually they have failed to live up to their high ideals.. then we may hear the voice of God bidding us to come home, to return to Him who will forgive and heal and restore and give us new purpose.
        We cannot help but be selfish, Eustace.

      • len

        You don`t seem to have grasped what a Christian is Eustace?…But you readily condemn what you do not understand…..

        • Eustace

          I understand it a great deal better than you seem to. Those voices in your head aren’t God. They’re the way you rationalise your own ego.

          • chefofsinners

            The ‘adjusted memory’ theory is held by some but is weak. The alternative explanation for eternal bliss while separated from loved ones is that we will understand God’s reasons properly and know that He has done right.

          • Eustace

            Ah, so you’ll enjoy knowing that your loved ones are suffering eternal torment, just as you probably enjoy seeing a small child scream in pain when it touches an open flame, despite being warned against it by his mother.

            How you must revel in his piteous shrieks as the agony of third degree burns reduces him to a shivering and maimed wreck.

            “He only has himself to blame”, you’ll say piously, and then laugh in joy as the child writhes and groans some more. It’s such bliss watching sinners get their come-uppance, isn’t it?

            And that’s your idea of eternal paradise?

            You’re even sicker in the head than I realised.

          • chefofsinners

            Any soul that ends up in hell will be there because the alternatives were worse – not for that soul but for all those who are obedient and faithful. You, for example, if you continue in your rebellion against God, will not be admitted to heaven because it would cease to be heaven if you were there. I would take not delight in that and nor would God. It would be a decision you had taken; no-one else can take it or alter it.

          • Eustace

            And of course my fate won’t trouble you one little bit. You’ll be all blissed up in heaven and won’t give a damn about anyone who didn’t make it there. If that includes people you love, who cares? The idea of clise family members burning for all eternity won’t take the shine off paradise one little bit, will it?

            See, Christians really are the ultimate psychopathic narcissists. All that matters is their own salvation and the Devil take everyone else. Quite literally.

            I wonder, will there be some kind of viewing platform in heaven where you can look down on your loved ones burning in hell and taunt them with your bliss and happiness? If hell is to be the ultimate punishment, there must be.

          • chefofsinners

            Your fate troubles me now. Unfortunately for you, it is in your hands, not mine.

          • Eustace

            Ah, so my fate troubles you, does it? So if you get to this heaven you dream about, it must continue to trouble you. But how can you be blissful and troubled at the same time? Troubles render bliss impossible.

            Only by excising all memory of me and all the damned from your personality will God be able to render you blissful. And whoever that bliss junkie will be, he won’t be you. A part of you perhaps. But only a lobotomised part.

            Either that or you’ll retain the memory of us, but you just won’t care. A callous indifference to our fate will be your attitude.

            I’m reminded of CS Lewis’s description in “The Last Battle” of the dead Pevensies’ attitude towards their surviving sister Susan. She must be in a considerable state of shock and grief just having lost her entire family in a brutal railway accident, however this suffering is apparently meaningless to them. Susan likes boys and makeup and nylons, so apparently this releases her siblings from all feelings of love and concern for her.

            So heaven is, to borrow some of Lewis’s stilted vocabulary, full of beastly and selfish prigs, is it?

            Best place for you. You’ll fit right in.

          • chefofsinners

            Glad to see you’ve been reading CS Lewis’ children’s books. Not just The Last Battle, but The Silver Chair too if your Marsh Wiggle comments are anything to go by. Clearly not read during a childhood in France, so a recent development I presume.

            Try these words of Aslan, from The Magician’s Nephew:

            “But I cannot tell that to this old sinner, and I cannot comfort him either; he has made himself unable to hear my voice. If I spoke to him, he would hear only growlings and roarings. Oh, Adam’s son, how cleverly you defend yourself against all that might do you good!”

          • Eustace

            I’ve said it several times, but I’ll say it again: my mother was English. She came from that misty offshore island you also call home, which meant that her native tongue was … wait for it … ENGLISH!

            Guess what language she spoke to her children?

            We learned French from our father, the household and the communities around us, but our mother only ever spoke to us in English. And gave us English books to read.

            I read the Narnia Chronicles at the same age as any English child would. Indeed I probably read more English children’s literature than French, mainly because there’s more of it, and it’s generally better written than our own somewhat simplistic fare. There’s only so excited you can get about Babar le petit elephant and le petit prince. I even prefer The Famous Five to Le Club des Cinq. Some concepts just make more sense in their original language.

            In any case, as fond as I was of the Narnia stories, even at a very early age the overriding theme of a big magic lion who buggers off when he feels like it and comes back to save the day seemed a little off to me. And I only have sympathy for poor Uncle Andrew. As a bachelor living in Victorian England with its barbaric laws and deeply ingrained homophobia, I’m not surprised that he took refuge in his studies. Remember that many Victorian remedies were laced with hard drugs, so hallucination must have been a common enough experience for him. For CS Lewis too, I should have thought. Was the story really written from the point of view of two small children, or should we see Lewis himself in the character of Uncle Andrew, as he was before he became dependent on Mrs Winslow’s Soothing Syrup, or Vin Mariani, or whatever it was?

          • chefofsinners

            Strange, though, that you’ve suddenly taking to quoting these books. No need to be so touchy – reading children’s stories is nothing to be ashamed of.

          • Eustace

            My last encounter with the Narnia Chronicles were the Disney films made of the first three books of the series, which of course I went to see as one does when one’s favourite works are brought to life on the screen.

            Commendable efforts, although I baulked at the idea of Aslan/Christ having an Irish accent. Too reminiscent of a certain gin-swilling priest who used to haunt my grandparents’ home and make my young sisters and cousins clump together nervously like sheep smelling a predator whenever he staggered into the room. Casting Liam Neeson in that role rather destroyed the illusion of benevolence for me. And as for the travesty that was Reepicheep – well, let’s just say he ranks up there with Gollum and Jar Jar Binks as one of three candidates for the prize of most annoyingly horrible CGI fail in cinematic history.

            In any case, as with all of my childhood favourites, I can recall large chunks of each of the Narnia Chronicles virtually verbatim. No need to re-read them. I can do the same with The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings. Most of Enid Blyton’s racist and sexist œuvre too. The William books by Richmal Crompton. Biggles, The Hardy Boys, The Phantom Tollbooth, most things by Dickens and Austen and Swift. If it’s well-written and retains my interest at the first reading, I never forget it. Which is probably why I have such trouble quoting anything from the Bible with any accuracy…

          • chefofsinners

            Yes indeed, the Devil can quote scripture.
            But if the Narnia Chronicles and Swift are among your favourite literature then there is hope for you yet. No doubt you enjoyed Enid Blyton’s Sooty Lenoir. How about The Screwtape Letters?

    • dannybhoy

      We are heading towards another war, or perhaps something even more climactic.

      • len

        If we stand back and look at what is happening worldwide the signs are all there.

        • sarky

          You can say that about any point in history.

          • Anton

            Only from the 20th century did WMDs come into existence by which one or two men could press a button and wipe out the entire human race.

          • sarky

            What about pandemics and natural disasters?, they’re not new.

          • bluedog

            Indeed. As one’s grandfather used to observe, it was only the Yellow River and Yellow Fever that kept the numbers down. No fool, he.

          • Anton

            They never threatened the survival of the entire human race.

    • sarky

      You mean it’s business as usual.
      Same as it’s always been, same as it will always be.

      • len

        Perhaps you are so young that the changes that are happening in our society have not caught your attention?…or have slipped by unnoticed?

        • sarky

          Erm what changes are you talking about?

      • len

        You just fulfilled Bible Prophecy Sarky as Eustace does everytime he appears.
        ‘knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts’ (,2 Peter 3:3)
        How ironic 😉

        • sarky

          How is stating facts scoffing?

          The world is the same as it’s ever being. People have always interpreted events as some ‘end times’ happening and yet here we all are. You can run around shouting ‘the sky’s falling in’, but I know it’s an acorn and I’m just going to carry on loving life.

  • A good job my daughter has just got her doctorate. Will Oxford be prepared to refer to her as Doctor, which after all is a sexless designation? Or will that be elitist and banned under some other ruling? If so they will surely have a problem as Oxford has quite a number of Doctors and Professors who like to stand on their dignity!

    • Old Nick

      The former Oxford custom was that the correct address for those with a D.Phil. was the same as for surgeons and Second Lieutenants. But then I am sure your daughter has been awarded a D.D..

    • Rhoda

      Doctor is usually treated as a gender neutral title but it is a masculine noun in Latin; doctrix there is the rarely used feminine form

  • bluedog

    Court circular: ‘…conscious of her illustrious pedigree (which includes at least eight noble lords beheaded for treason) and feels the duchess is, well… ‘not one of us’. ‘ But, but, but, the Middletons appear in the Percy volume of the Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal. Everyone knows that and its why the Duchess was bien recu where it matters.

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      Goodness – you mean you have read the Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal Percy Volume? I am a Trollope fan myself …no surprise there then.

      • bluedog

        Heavens no, Ma P, eye-glazing stuff. Trusted sources.

  • dannybhoy

    “Instead, all will be ‘Mx’, though how one pronounces this abomination is not clear.”

    Max as in Mx Madd, Mx Lode, Mx Imam, MxImise?
    Mex as in Mx I.Cann, Mx Stacy?
    Mix as in Mx Dupp/ Mx M’Tosis?
    Mox as in Mx Idise, Mx Theweek?
    Mux as in Mx Spredder?

    ” No bouncing bibles from Barchester, just stale hobnobs double-baked to a recipe by Barnes-Wallis. Fiendish I know…”
    Very good Mrs Proudie!

    “It is good to be British, is it not?”
    Absolutely Madam. and you in your finer moments, typify that indomitable spirit..

    • Old Nick

      You forgot Mx Headroom.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      “how one pronounces this abomination is not clear”
      How about “Mess”?

      • It’s pronounced “Mix” apparently.

  • Uncle Brian

    A quarrel has already started on a comments thread at the Independent on the burning question of whether anyone at all is free to tick the Mx box on council forms, or whether the brand-new “honorific” is strictly reserved for the use of those who can truthfully describe themselves as “non-binary transgender”.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/oxford-city-council-praised-for-introducing-gender-neutral-mx-title-on-paperwork-a7194046.html

    • magnolia

      Do they know how silly funny and absurd the next generation will find them, when they have found all the flaws in their thinking and the pendulum has swung, as always happens? Or is this beyond their comprehension?

  • Richard Harrold

    Very good! Not sure about the snipe at Glenda Jackson though – a superb actress, double Oscar winner, an excellent MP and fine orator. Her incendiary denunciation of Mrs Thatcher amid the sycophantic tributes to the latter was quite stupendous (not to mention, razor-sharp in its accuracy).

    • Inspector General

      Glenda Jackson is a Red. That’s all we need to know…

      • Richard Harrold

        She’s a democratic socialist, not a Communist.

        • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

          Ah, a communist will kill you, a democratic socialist just offers assisted suicide…

          • Richard Harrold

            No, a democratic socialist offers some hope of life… unrestricted capitalism simply crushes you to death.

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            Nothing democratic about socialism, which has an unhealthy relationship with eugenics…it is all about compulsion and theft…

          • Richard Harrold

            Eugenics is a far-right view. The Nazis were very keen on it – and, despite their name, they were as far from socialism as is possible. Progressive taxation is not theft, although many right-wingers are too incapable of intelligent thought to understand that.

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            Well I beg to differ: eugenics was a policy favoured by Fabian socialists, in particular George Bernard Shaw who was all in favour of gassing the feeble minded before the Second World War. Beatrice Webb, another socialist figure of the inter-war period, was in favour of eugenics – Marie Stopes etc etc. The Left have managed to pull off a major coup by casting the Nazis as extreme right, but Nazism was born of the Left…it introduced economic autarky and attacked parties of the right, particularly the monarchists and catholics. All taxation is theft – theft with menaces come to think of it. There is no written contract between citizen and state regarding taxation – the citizen is told how much the state will take and to refuse means penalties. The fact that we accept it as a means of paying for public services does not alter the fact that money is taken from individuals without there contractual agreement. The last part of your posting is an implied ad hominem insult which I will not respond to.

          • Richard Harrold

            Marie Stopes (who lived just down the road from me here, at Norbury Park, just south of where I am in Leatherhead) was pretty chummy with the Nazis, and a lot of the Fabian so-called socialists, who’d never even heard of Jarrow let alone understood why there was a march there, were really fascists in disguise. Ironically, Stopes’ son married the daughter of Barnes Wallis, who lived down in Effingham, between Leatherhead and Guildford. The latter’s house still stands by the Effingham-Abinger road. Stopes disowned her son – for the simple reason that Miss Wallis was short-sighted. Never mind that she was sired by one of the greatest engineers, and humanitarians, of British history. I rather think it was Stopes who was myopic… but the point is, fascism and socialism are very different things. Like Leninism, it hijacked the socialist agenda to push its own dictatorial ambitions. Monarchies were collapsing anyway, it wasn’t entirely precipitated by fascists and communists. As for the matter of taxation – you’re entirely free to vote for low-tax parties – but the idea that we can just opt out of tax altogether is wrong. Without some active redistribution of wealth, mainly through spending on welfare, healthcare, education, infrastructure and defence, we would see unprecedented levels of economic polarisation, making the current mess look like utopia, and a total loss of national security.

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            Thank you Richard. I enjoyed reading your reply very much, and feel I have learned something more about Marie Stopes – I had no notion of her Barnes-Wallis connection. In fact, I quite agree with you on your point about fascism and Leninism hijacking the socialist agenda, but again make the point that they were all born of the Left – not the right. I did not make an argument for not paying taxes, I merely argued that taxation was theft in that it is done through compulsion (with penalties for non-payment) as opposed to being contractual (by agreement). I quite understand that to get everyone’s individual agreement to tax would be impractical (and impossible) to achieve, but I believe the Swiss have a system whereby the budget is put to the people in a referendum. I know I know, Switzerland is another country and they do things differently there. However, thank you for views, much appreciated.

          • Richard Harrold

            You can’t really blame the progressive labour movement for Nazism. There wasn’t really such a thing in Russia, it was Lenin vs the Tsar, but the Weimar Republic was starting to work and, had the ludicrously punitive conditions of the Treaty of Versailles been overturned, Hitler would never have got near office. The problem was that men like Ebert and Streseman were hamstrung by Versailles, the American Dawes Plan notwithstanding, and the Freikorps thus remained influential – the Nazis were not the FKs’ first far-right armed political movement. The Swiss system of government is somewhat different to ours: they govern by referenda, we by representation. Referenda are not necessarily the be all and end all, and are sometimes perceived as causing instability – but given what we’ve had to endure under the Tories, I think it’s worth considering forcing a plebiscite over the budget.

        • The Explorer

          If she’s a democratic socialist, are there undemocratic socialists?

          • len

            Definitely…

          • The Explorer

            Strange, the ‘democratic’ in the official titles of two of the least democratic places imaginable: East Germany and North Korea. The amount of democracy in a society seems in inverse proportion to the amount of socialism.

          • Richard Harrold

            There are certainly those who proclaim themselves socialists who have totalitarian policies. What is or is not a true socialist is not for me to proclaim: I would not be so arrogant.

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      I don’t snipe, dear Richard, I just observe…

    • Anton

      You mean St Margaret of Finchley of Blessed Memory?

      • Eustace

        No, I think he means Margaret Hilda Roberts, the late Denis Thatcher’s sometime concubine and “second wife”.

        • Anton

    • bluedog

      Heroic indeed to be able to deride and condemn the dead yet emerge unscathed.

      • Richard Harrold

        Thatcher is rightly condemned in death as she was in life. Her poisonous, destructive legacy has left this country very much the poorer.

        • bluedog

          Are you writing from the Argentine?

          • Richard Harrold

            No, leafy Surrey. Even here, in the heart of Toryland, the destruction she wrought is still felt. The Falklands would never have been invaded if she hadn’t been preparing to hand the islands over and withdrawn their naval cover… the way she was made to look a hero as a result of that catastrophic fúck-up was one of the most grotesque distortions of modern history. As now, she was able to get away with it because the opposition was riven with rival factions tearing it apart, more concerned with fighting each other than opposing the government…

          • bluedog

            A good leader responds flexibly to changing circumstances, as Thatcher did in 1982. It goes without saying that the withdrawal of the very lightly armed HMS Endurance, scarcely naval cover, would have been done on FCO advice. Note that Endurance was only stationed in the South Atlantic during the summer, and Argentine occupation commenced in the autumn. Hence the subsequent resignation of the responsible minister, Peter Carrington, rather than the defence minister who was charged with implementing cuts to the RN that included Endurance, launched in 1956.

          • Richard Harrold

            Her motive was entirely cynical. Her popularity had gone down the drain in 1980-81. The Falklands War was entirely preventable – as most veterans thereof will tell you. The entire military presence on the islands was decimated. The islanders felt betrayed, and rightly so – as did many of the working-class communities in Britain who voted for her. Pretty much the only thing she got right was her famous “NO NO NO” speech, rejecting Delors’ proposal that the unelected EC be the supreme executive of the EU.

          • bluedog

            Hindsight is a wonderful thing, one’s power of prediction are untrammelled by reality and lack of knowledge of the future.

            Linking Thatcher’s declining popularity to the Falklands War is simply revisionist. By way of repetition, sadly necessary, it was the FCO who screwed up, and completely misread Argentine intentions. The British garrison on the Falklands was always negligible because the threat was deemed extremely low. In any event, you seem unaware that to defend the Falklands from invasion requires the presence of a powerful warship, not troops on the ground at Port Stanley. Without a warship or a detachment of fighter bombers, the Argentines could land at will, and they did. A small garrison would inevitably be overwhelmed.

            Working-class communities who voted for Thatcher were rewarded by the opportunity to buy their council houses, a financial bonanza for them. So they voted her back in. Again, by way of repetition, Thatcher was defeated by the Tory grandees, not the British electorate. The same Tory grandees called the Brexit vote wrong too. Consistent at least.

          • Richard Harrold

            Thatcher’s declining popularity was more to do with the catastrophic destruction she was wreaking across the working-class industrial areas of the country, including the disastrous Right to Buy scheme. However, she was in direct discussions with her Argentinian counterparts: that is a matter of historical record. The level of defence of the Falklands had been low for a long time, yes, but Thatcher almost eliminated it.

        • bluedog

          You forget. Thatcher never lost her popular mandate, she remained undefeated at the polls. It was the Tory Wests who knifed her, appointing the desperately mediocre John Major in her stead. Even then it was six years before her franchise was dissipated.

          • Richard Harrold

            That was purely because, as now, Her Majesty’s Opposition was tearing itself apart. Thatcher herself was exceedingly unpopular. Remember, we don’t vote for the government, or the party thereof, less still directly for Prime Ministerial candidates. We vote for individual constituency MPs – and some people do vote for certain candidates on the strength of their local performance despite not supporting that party on a national level. E.G. you’ll find a lot of Tories in Bolsover who, however begrudgingly, admit that Dennis Skinner has been a diligent representative of their constituency and a tireless campaigner for their interests over many years – even though they don’t agree with his or the party’s views on national matters. He has also successfully kept UKIP at bay by throwing his weight behind the Labour Leave campaign.

  • IanCad

    What we need to fix all this nonsense is a darn good war. It will come – it will come.

    • Inspector General

      We don’t need a war, Ian. Just some discipline back into society. If that fails, the Inspector would be saddened to see pride marches broken up by the police with a few smashed-in skulls in the process, but if there is no other option…

      You see. We have to win this one. For the sake of order in society and the hetronormative continuation of our kind on this earth….

    • Politically__Incorrect

      I would agree with you were it not for the state of our armed forces. No equipment but plenty of political correctness. Any attempt to attack this nation would probably result in little more than a twitter storm and lots of name-calling.

      • Inspector General

        Pay off 8000 useless female bodies wearing army uniform and you won’t be able to move for equipment bought with the cash freed up…

        • Anton

          They terrify me…

          • Inspector General

            Don’t worry. If they think you are a ‘dish’ they won’t shoot…

          • bluedog

            Many a true word spoken in jest, Inspector. Research by the US Army after WW2 found that only 25% of front-line troops actually tried to hit the enemy when they fired their rifles.

        • bluedog

          The advent of female soldiers leaves this communicant wondering how they will maintain the ancient tradition of the British Army on finding something alive: ‘Kill it, or F*ck it, or Eat it.’

          • The Explorer

            Or “If it moves, salute it. If it doesn’t move, pick it up. If you can’t pick it up, paint it.” One fears an increase in painting.

          • bluedog

            Indeed, Mr Explorer, possibly in shabby chic pastel shades. Hard to maintain standards when everything is either olive drab or woodland camo.

      • Anton

        The armed forces are underfunded but largely OK. It’s the police to whom your description applies.

  • Folks, please be more sympathetic and understanding to the non-binary in our midst. Those who feel they are neither male nor female – but a Mix or Mixture. Those who consider themselves to male or female will still be entitled to use Mr, Mrs, Ms. This is a sensible addition to add to the rich tapestry of our reality and recognises those who are Mixed Up.

    Knock, knock ….
    Who’s there?
    Mix ….
    Mix who?
    Mix me a drink please.

    • What cocktail would you like? How about a Two-Spirit?

      The following are the 58 gender options identified by ABC News:
      Agender
      Androgyne
      Androgynous
      Bigender
      Cis
      Cisgender
      Cis Female
      Cis Male
      Cis Man
      Cis Woman
      Cisgender Female
      Cisgender Male
      Cisgender Man
      Cisgender Woman
      Female to Male
      FTM
      Gender Fluid
      Gender Nonconforming
      Gender Questioning
      Gender Variant
      Genderqueer
      Intersex
      Male to Female
      MTF
      Neither
      Neutrois
      Non-binary
      Other
      Pangender
      Trans
      Trans*
      Trans Female
      Trans* Female
      Trans Male
      Trans* Male
      Trans Man
      Trans* Man
      Trans Person
      Trans* Person
      Trans Woman
      Trans* Woman
      Transfeminine
      Transgender
      Transgender Female
      Transgender Male
      Transgender Man
      Transgender Person
      Transgender Woman
      Transmasculine
      Transsexual
      Transsexual Female
      Transsexual Male
      Transsexual Man
      Transsexual Person
      Transsexual Woman
      Two-Spirit

      • magnolia

        Not very long ago and from then back to the dawn of time such a list would have had anyone making it locked up or certified or the equivalent.

        Those who make them seem to have little cultural breadth and next to no historical understanding, but no doubt have degrees from somewhere, though probably not anywhere top notch, or second top notch. Probably a psychology degree devoid of much other learning.
        And a capacity for certainty that their ancestors were a bunch of primitives.

  • Thought ….

    If two Mx’s get married how will they be known?

    • Mix and Match?

      • Inspector General

        Marriage! You really think marriage is going to survive this lunacy. It’s too exclusive and divisive for the young free thinkers out there. No one will have a claim on anyone in the brave new world we are walking towards…

    • Politically__Incorrect

      But if they are each mixed sex there is no need to marry. They can marry themselves. They can each be their own bride and groom.

  • David

    I believe that many liberals in society gave the homosexual lobby, what the politically active section of them wanted, from a sympathy perspective. That was one step.
    However the attempts to totally wipe out even the most basic of distinctions between the sexes will be a much more difficult “cause” to win.
    Although madnesses like allowing either sex into public toilets is currently being hard fought in the US, it is my conjecture that this strikes so directly against both the reality of obvious human differences, as well as basic human modesties, I hope that the juggernaut is resoundingly rejected by a vast majority.

  • magnolia

    A feeble effort by Oxford city council: “Zx” is far better for unpronounceable and baffling to all. Failing that “thingy” would have the advantage of giving no information whatever and designating a vague nothingness.

    • Inspector General

      One is reminded of the Labour types in the 70s who tried to get everyone to call each other ‘comrade’. People didn’t like being de-personalised and it eventually became ‘comrade brother” and ‘comrade sister’. Of course, it’s all first names these days.

      • Shadrach Fire

        What of those who seem unsure if they are brother or sister?

        • Uncle Brian

          Ask Stan, he’ll know the answer. “I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me Loretta.”

          • Eustace

            Unlikely that a transgender Judaean during the Julio-Claudian era would have asked to be called Loretta, which is a modern variant of the Italian Laura, from the Latin Laurus/Laura, meaning laurel. The modern version didn’t exist as a name in Roman times.

            That didn’t stop Monty Python using it to ridicule and belittle the trans community, of course. For a bunch of Oxbridge educated comedians, you’d have thought they might have paid a little more attention to the naming conventions of the period before settling on such a blatant anachronism.

            Still, no worse than Biggus Dickus, I suppose. Although nothing about that name mocks or otherwise invalidates the character’s gender identity. Indeed it rather enhances it.

            Poorly done, Monty Python. But then I suppose most people weren’t educated about these issues in the 1970s. A bit like this blog today.

          • Anton

            Always pleased to see an attack on that blasphemous film…

          • Eustace

            A great movie indeed, even if one or two sequences sound a false note today.

            “Now you listen ‘ere! ‘Ee’s not the messiah. ‘Ee’s a very naughty boy.”

            One of cinema’s classic lines.

          • Anton

            A shameful movie indeed, even if one or two sequences are hilarious today.

            “What did the Romans ever do for us?”

          • Eustace

            “You ‘ear that? Blessed are the Greek!”

            “The Greek?”

            “Mmm. Well, apparently, ‘ee’s goin’ to in’erit the earf!”

            “Did anyone catch his name?”

          • The Explorer

            How likely a name was Brian?

          • Eustace

            Good point. As unlikely as Loretta. But not nearly so belittling of the character’s gender identity.

          • Uncle Brian

            Something else you hadn’t noticed, Linus. Look no further than the title of the film. Was the name Brian in common use in first-century Judea? I don’t think so.

        • Inspector General

          It’s hard to consider of that time that the peoples revolutionary struggle to seize the means of production could be held up by comrade Charlie wishing to be known as Charley…

    • Uncle Brian

      They don’t really want to do away with so-called “honorifics”, of course, whatever they may say their purpose is. If that was what they really wanted, nothing could be simpler. Just don’t have a box on forms for Mr, Mrs, Dr, Rev., or whatever. People would simply be addressed by their names: Justin Welby, Martyn Percy, Theresa May, Diane Abbott, Thomas Cranmer, Anthony Charles Lynton Blair …

  • Inspector General

    Huxley did us all a great favour…through him we know what THEY want…

  • Shadrach Fire

    There is more sense written in Mrs Proudie’s column than there is in the whole of Hansard.

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      Oh my….oh my oh my…I am all of a flutter….quick Slope, the smelling salts…I am overwhelmed…

      • David

        Someone steer her towards the falling couch – quick now !

      • Bernard from Bucks

        “I am wearing the Church’s one foundation” you say?
        Perhaps it is to tight. You need to undo a few laces. 😉

  • len

    There seems to be a plan afoot to depersonalise the masses , make them leaderless and therefore’ putty’ in the hands of their masters.There are ‘no boundaries’ ‘no absolutes,’so the public are easily deceived and easily manipulated into doing what their masters wanted.
    But wait….. along came’ Brexit’ and a hefty spanner was thrown in the works.

    There seems to be a growing awareness amongst the public that there is something ‘not quite right’ with their society.Corruption at the very highest level.Cover ups.Fraud. God is exposing it all.
    Keep up the good work MRS Proudie , don`t let them get away with anything!.

  • David

    The plan of the globalists, led by Soros, is to totally sweep away all other sources of strengths that individuals can drew upon for stability, direction and purpose; so faith, flag and family are all under constant attack. By destroying any sense of national identity, by denigrating faith, especially the Christian faith, by undermining traditional family structures and even confusing peoples’ sense of their sex, either male or female, they hope to create a pliable putty of workers who are easily led and manipulated. Only the tiny elite will retain any sense of who and what they are. This is essentially what globalism is about, of which of course, the EU was one of the first steps. But then came Ukip and the other counter-cultural brexiteers and, with God’s help, we got the boost we needed to start to roll back these monsters.

    • Eustace

      You forgot to mention that the whole plot was masterminded from Clarence House by the Lizard Queen Mother and her reptilian daughter and grandson.

      If you’re going to quote whole pages from David Icke’s conspiracy theorist’s handbook, you might as well tell us the whole story.

      • len

        Hope you got your’ tin foil hat’ ready Eustace if you’ve been reading David Icke? .Gotta stop those bad vibes coming in….

        • Eustace

          Bad vibes, from the prophet of conspiracy theories and the Christian’s best friend?

          OK, so you probably think Icke’s Reptilians are demons or devils or whatever other fantasy creatures inhabit the imaginary place you call Hell. But otherwise his paranoid delusions are pretty much pulled word for word from similar Christian conspiracy theories.

          So will your metal cross protect you where a tinfoil hat won’t? Only a certifiable loon could think that trinkets or talismans of any kind can protect you from anything, although at least Christians (and David Icke too, which goes to show the level on which Christians operate) retain enough cognitive function to claim that their magic only works against invisible enemies.

          You can claim as many victories as you like in a war that’s entirely in your own head. And you do, don’t you?

          • Dreadnaught

            I think you’ll find Icke lifted his text from another brother wierdo, a Zionist hating Jew turned self proclaimed Christian who also has his own ‘copyright’ site ‘real jew news’ – http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=411 – Just sayin’…

          • Eustace

            Many of Icke’s assertions are no crazier than the myths encountered in the Bible.

            Is the Resurrection any madder an idea than a Reptilian conspiracy? Is Icke’s claim that Mrs Mountbatten is a shape-shiftîng lizard any weirder than tall stories of winged angels and horned demons?

            Sure, Icke is as loopy as they come. But if he’d chosen his delusions from the Christian storybook instead of making up his own, Christians would hail him as a prophet and a saint.

            Churches are full of David Ickes. The fervour and certainty of delusion is what keeps all faiths alive.

          • Anton

            I admire your strength of faith.

          • Eustace

            Not faith. Rational thought. Icke can’t produce any Reptilians to prove his assertions. Christians can’t produce God, or Jesus, or Mary, or even the tiniest, meanest little cherub, sub-demon or hobgoblin to prove theirs.

            Given the far-fetchedness of their claims and the known propensity of humans to lie, cheat and delude themselves, only one conclusion is possible.

          • Anton

            …that you are deluding yourself?

          • Eustace

            That you are deluding yourself, yes.

          • Anton

            As I said, I admire the strength of your faith in your chosen belief system. If Christians had that much faith in theirs then the church would be in clover.

          • The Explorer

            “Reptilians are demons or devils or whatever other fantasy creatures inhabit the imaginary place you call Hell.”

            In ‘Mark’ the demons, recognising who Christ is, ask if he has come to “torment them before their time.” That suggests they are currently free to roam. The exceptions are those referred to in ‘Jude’ who are bound with adamantine chains below the darkness: the darkness presumably being the temporary hell of unredeemed humanity. (They must be the really bad boys: the Eustaces of the demonic world.) Both sorts will be consigned to the Lake of Fire after the Last Judgement, where unredeemed humans will join them.

          • Eustace

            Temporary hell?

            In Portakabins are they? Or is it a tent and shack affair a bit like the Calais Jungle?

            Perhaps it’s the M25 on a Friday evening and the poor old demons are trapped in a compact Ford or an Opel between the two most widely spaced junctions.

            Or it could be the Tube at rush hour with extra smelly armpits and clawed groping hands for the lady demons (and the better-looking men).

            Whatever this temporary hell looks like, the fact that it only exists in your imagination means that you’re going to have to decribe it to me. I can’t see inside your head (a fact for which I would thank your imaginary God if he existed) so I can’t see the sort of bitter and twisted revenge you revel in as you imagine it being visited on everyone who’s ever thwarted you.

            Your fantasy, your rules.

          • The Explorer

            No, no, no. It’s humans in the temporary hell, not demons. The NT description is of a condition/place of “wailing and gnashing of teeth”. Dives in the parable is in agony.

            The chained ones in ‘Jude’ may be the Nephilim of ‘Genesis’, ericanthinker. who mated with women.

            The gender of demons is an interesting one. We don’t have enough information on the subject for me to comment. Maybe they’ve got their own blog and are having a gender debate, just as we are.

          • Eustace

            You should write a book about this. Your fantasy world is as fully developed as anything by Tolkien or JK Rowling.

            Clearly you’ve devoted a lot of thought as to how the perfect hell would look and how those consigned there will suffer. You clearly derive great joy from the prospect.

            Enjoy wallowing in your dreams of revenge. I hope it makes you feel better about your impotence in the real world.

          • The Explorer

            Everything is derived from the New Testament. If I were inventing it, there’d be a lot more detail. The ‘Aeneid’, for example, is a great deal more detailed than the NT, but Aeneas emerges through the horned gate. (Ie: sleep). It’s all been a dream.

            The Qur’an has more detail about Hell than the NT does. Dante’s ‘Inferno’ owes far more to Virgil and the Qur’an than it does to the NT.

          • Anton

            Try Hieronymus Bosch for that.

          • len

            You have some very strange ideas Eustace?…Beginning to wonder if this is all a bit too much for you?

          • chefofsinners

            A word to the wise, Len.
            Every website worth its salt has a pet troll. Eustace is ours.
            He helps us Christians to look reasonable by being all bitter and spiteful. He advances common anti-Christian arguments so that we can knock them down.
            Enjoy him for what he appears to be, but don’t think too hard about who he really is.

    • len

      The public cannot fail to notice how the gap between ‘the haves’ and ‘the haves nots’ is widening almost daily…’The selfie’ to me seems to underline how self has become idolized , ‘self’ has become deified we are all’ little gods’ now.

      Grab what you want and stuff the rest.No absolutes, no morality(unless it makes one feel good don`t bother me)

      This is the secular state the secular world vision.This is ‘the Tower of Babel’ ‘the godless world vision’.Remove God and we all become ‘gods’.What epitomizes this to me is a certain gentlemen(I hesitate to use the word) standing on his hundred million pound mega yacht telling reporters to “go away don`t bother me” while his formers employees face financial ruin and all that entails…

      • David

        I agree Len.

      • Anton

        Did he fill his boots while others turned green?

      • chefofsinners

        Now there’s a chap whose anchor won’t hold in the storms of this life or the next.

    • Ivan M

      Soros is definitely in a league of his own. Embodying himself as a golem incanted out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. His Open Society Initiative is a cruel joke on Karl Popper. Sorry this post was meant to tag here

  • chefofsinners

    Many thanx Mx Pxoudie of Baxchextex.
    I fear that the political left, having failed to nationalise the means of production, is now bent on nationalising the means of reproduction. Hold on to your hobnobs, gentlemen. Every time they see something large they want to nationalise it.
    If I sound a little bitter, it is because the gold medal in walking backwards has been cruelly ‘snatched’ from me, by those who claim I am not a woman. I told them that Castor Semenya is no sugar babe, but they say there is more semen in her surname than in her leotard. As you say, Lycra is an unforgiving fabric, and the truth will out. I comfort myself with the knowledge that Eustace will stick up for me, and that the penis mightier than the sword.

    • Ivan M

      Soros is definitely in a league of his own. Embodying himself as a golem incanted out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. His Open Society Initiative is a cruel joke on Karl Popper.

      • Ivan M

        Sorry ignore this,

        • chefofsinners

          How could one ignore this? A dazzling attempt to use every letter of the alphabet in one post.

    • Cressida de Nova
      • chefofsinners

        You are a flatteratrix, dear lady, but I fear your glasses might need a once-over with the Windolene.

        • bluedog

          Careful with Cressida, CoS. She’s a French Catholic extremist who will not rest until the Papacy is restored to Avignon.

          • Cressida de Nova

            Di cosa stai parlando , cane pazzo ! Questa fantasia deve cessare.

          • bluedog

            se insisti.

  • David

    Breitbart London is reporting a demonstration outside Parliament with, mainly, women holding up placards saying “Islam kills women”. They point, very critically, to all the obvious anti-female practices of Islam as evidence . Moe people are speaking out it seems.

    • chefofsinners

      Police are now hunting for an Isla M.

    • Anton

      Please put up the link.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      I wonder if the BBC has covered this? They are usually quick to pick up on womens issues. Either way its good to see PEGIDA UK is alive and kicking. I sometimes think that the issue of Islamic terrorism takes our focus from the insidious but equally dangerous Islamisation of the country through a combination electoral fraud amongst the muslim community and the authorities refusal to tackle it. PEGIDA are right to raise the issue of women. Their treatment by muslim men is undeniable and contrary to just about every Western value.

  • Kevin Lawlor

    It’s about time we took this ‘politically correct’ nonsense and put it where it belongs – in the garbage bin!

  • Alison Bailey Castellina

    I would take issue with the Mx Proudie’s natural assumption that biscuits “did wonders for Garibaldi…..” I take an interest in Garibaldi’s effects. They were not all happpy, including in the culinary line. We have just had the honour of passing a few civilised days in the unchanged, fin de siecle house of his Chief of Staff in that ancient region of Italy whose rank and file never wished to be forcibly unified (Piedmont/Savoy) losing their noble history, name and their language to The New Political Order. I have also given a so-called Garibaldi biscuit to my husband which he rejected out of hand on the grounds of both its politics and taste. The fame of Garibaldi biscuits has never reached Italy…. It seems the aggregious invention was invented when the bearded masonic revolutionary came visiting South Shields. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garibaldi_biscuit