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The Bolshevik Broadcasting Company attributes Trump’s victory to “uneducated Americans”

Goodness! One is writing this on 9th November – 9/11 in European terms – which, in a way, is auspicious. One feels one is standing on the Yellow Brick Road of Destiny, gazing at the breaking sunrise of Hope over the Emerald City, for Ding Dong the Witch is dead (or at least booking her own room at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London); the curtain has been torn away to reveal the media were pulling the levers all along and the man with the lion’s mane – no coward he – is President Elect. This is a Munchkin victory; a triumph of the little people who despaired at ever being listened to. At least Mrs. Clinton can take comfort from the fact that Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison before he became president, so there’s hope for her yet.

The news ran round Barchester like wildfire this morning. We are all agog, and the Archdeacon is beside himself with glee. Needless to say, this morning’s edition of The Jupiter was printed with a black border and John Bold has had to lie down in a darkened room. The Bolshevik Broadcasting Company made a point of announcing Mr. Trump’s victory with caveats – the first president to come to office without military experience or holding public office – and one announcer sneered that his success was down to ‘uneducated Americans’, which tells you everything you need to know about Broadcasting House. I suggested to my Lord the Bishop (and he agrees with me) that we should celebrate with a Te Deum in the Cathedral, commissioning dear Mr. Harding to compose a new choral setting – The Barchester Te Deum. I expect to see all my good friends in the pews.

One feels bewigged, bothered and bewildered by the judiciary these days: in the recent case of The People vs A Woman from South America, their lordships plumped for Carmen Miranda, admittedly a figure slightly more attractive that Mr. Farage; but appearances can be deceptive – as we know from Signora Vesey Neroni. I fear the skeletal hand of the shadow elite is still desperate to clutch the throat of the body politic and apply pressure. We need no lessons in democracy from dusky Latinos. One thinks of Eva Peroni, Che Guava and Fidel Castrol, and shudders. But what is this? A plot to reverse Brexit and remain within the EU? The Liberal Democratic leader Mr. Farron has given the game away in a bid to make himself seem important. He is not, being only the man in charge of a very small rump. Not even Mr. Slope is interested in that.

The Evangelical Church in Germany is giving us much cause for concern. The Bishop of Schnitzel-mit-Noodlein’s special outreach envoy, Dr. Horst Throatwarbler, paid a courtesy call at The Palace yesterday, and over Earl Grey and hobnobs he mentioned their plans to actively campaign against right-wingers.

“Frau Merkel’s government have been very helpful,” he explained, “They have issued a pamphlet identifying right-wingers by their blond hair, conservative dress and quiet, undemonstrative natures.”

The Archdeacon, who up till this point had been civil, exploded, waking the Bishop from his post-prandial.

“What devilish nonsense is this!” he exclaimed, “You have just described most of the German population! What about those parishioners who don’t subscribe to Bolshevik multi-kulti Great Big Melting Pot anti-racist Racism?”

“They are yesterday, Herr Archdeacon,” rasped Dr. Throatwarbler. “You see, the Evangelical Church recognises the future lies with the New Germans, very few of whom are blond and almost all of them quite demonstrative. We are planning to ditch the Old Testament and rewrite the New so that Mohammed (Praise be Upon Him) is placed at the centre, which is how Frau Merkel sees things. Jesus is so first-century! One needs a practical head on one’s shoulders. No-one can accuse us of not being ‘with it’, for these are changing times, and tomorrow belongs to us.”

“You may not keep your practical head for much longer,” spluttered the Archdeacon.

“We have no room for Doubting Thomases in Merkeland,” said Dr. T.

How I kept the Archdeacon from launching a pre-emptive strike I don’t know. In the end I decided to leave them to it, taking to my boudoir to read the collected correspondence between Archbishop Cranmer and Dean Percy. One does appreciate a good page-turner before Evensong. Would the latter perhaps consider the deanery at Barchester now that Dr. Trefoil has gone the way of all flesh, or is he destined for mitre-dom? Such an adornment to the bench, and no doubt a fine figure in gaiters. Gute Nacht, meine lieben! Auf Wiedersehen! Until next week.

  • chefofsinners

    Hillary Clinton… putting the broad into British Broadcasting Corporation.

    • TropicalAnglican

      Steady, steady … aim for the upvote … the UPvote … OK, stop laughing first … got it!

    • David

      You are excelling yourself today !
      Steady now !

    • Excellent.

  • chefofsinners

    A lovely and unexpected start to the day, Mrs P. Your parody of the Wizard of US is delicious. Quite the opposite of a Barchester Tedium.
    You rightly identify Mr Farron’s treachery. This is his tuition fees moment. Like his predecessor, he will now know the terrible wrath of the electorate militant.

  • bluedog

    Will we now see the Clinton Foundation deploy its formidable financial resources to help establish a Democrats for Non-violent Democracy Society? One can see the opportunity as the tertiary educated urban youth of New York and the West Coast articulate their concerns by blocking roads and picketing Trump Tower. Even the BBC is reporting some of this activity, although not with the same fervour as it covers a spike in hate-crimes. Of course, the sort of people who are hate-crime activists are the same sort of people who voted for Trump. Large, white, male, uneducated and American.

    • Dominic Stockford

      It is interesting to see the amount of effort the BBC are putting in to reporting the activities of a few hundred people in the USA. When a few hundred turned up outside Parliament to oppose and pray against same-sex marriage we got not a mention.

      • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

        That’s because you were ‘off-message’ dear Dominic.

      • Dreadnaught

        And the cause of Sgt Blackman right outside Parliament – not a mention. However a kitten was seen with a Hitler moustache – many many times.

  • IrishNeanderthal

    Talking of Germany, I am reminded of this:

    Bishop who preached about ‘excess’ caught drink-driving | The Independent

    concerning Bishop Margot Kässmann, who in 2010 was head of the country’s Lutheran church, and who was caught at the wheel at over five (according to my calculation) times the legal limit.

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      She should have claimed the water she drank miraculously turned to wine inside her stomach…it is about as sensible as other stuff the Lutherans are currently peddling…

      • David

        Like that Swedish Lutheran bishopess who has removed all the crosses from a church to make Muslims more welcome. Silly, wicked old bat !
        Martin Luther, whose theology I respect, must be turning in his grave.

      • IanCad

        Very, very funny, Mrs. P.

  • len

    The liberal elites those ‘movers and shakers ‘who have led the masses where those liberals wanted them to go have suddenly been pulled up short and they don`t like it.
    Brexit and the US Presidential disaster for the Democrats has sent a shudder through the elites and those who support them.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      And that shock wave seems to spreading across Europe too, with many non-establishment parties buoyed up by recent events.

      • David

        Yes, Orban is a fearless, political leader of stature, and an ally of the UK as we Brexit.

  • The Explorer

    “and one announcer sneered that his success was down to ‘uneducated Americans’,” Let us not forget that one concentration camp commandant had two doctorates.

    Years ago there was a TV series called ‘Firstborn’. In it, somebody clever worked out how to cross human with gorilla. The result was given to a female gorilla to nurture. First she cuddled it. Then she inspected it. Then, sensing a future abomination, she strangled it. Sometimes the instincts of the primitive are sounder than those of the highly educated.

  • Inspector General

    It’s true, Mrs Proudie. The BBC did indeed have a university type on the radio. Not a discussion program, mind, but the damn news! He went on to say that cuddly educated people in the USA naturally voted for dear Hilary, whereas the socially untouchable daftees could not help themselves but to choose the devil incarnate.

    One is somewhat hoping that outrage is the final act of spite from the Marxists therein, but alas, it is not to be….

    • Politically__Incorrect

      Inspection tor, the BBC is steadily digging it’s own grave. Just as there were “hidden” Trump supporters over there who were overlooked by the pollsters, so there are many here, even though they may not admit it. Auntie has not for the first time grossly misjudged the public mood. We just need a government with the balls to shred the Royal Charter and cast this bunch of lefties adrift on the high seas of pay-per-view television where their true level of public support will inevitably cause them to founder.

      • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

        It’s that Attenborough fellow I cannot stand. Now he thinks there are too many people on the planet, that we are like some virus or plague, hinting at a cull. This is pure eugenics, very socialist, very Fabian. The man is not as cuddly and as nice as his wildlife programmes might suggest.

        • Politically__Incorrect

          You are correct Mrs Proudie. I understand this BBC luvvie actually said that Mr Trump should be shot. Bit of a nasty piece of work that Mr Attenborough.

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            Why isn’t that a hate crime? Why is he not hauled before the beak?

        • David

          Quite !
          He seems to, well almost despise the human race. I point out his vile atheistic approach whenever a suitable opportunity arises.

      • David

        As the BBC becomes increasingly desperate and strident in its denial of reality, they expose themselves more and more. Eventually even the dimmest licence payer and voter will see how utterly ridiculous that Wicked Old Aunt BBC truly is. After 50 years of this liberal claptrap I am enjoying the BBC’s ever increasing discomfort with a positive lip-smacking satisfaction !

  • Royinsouthwest

    I dislike the word “elite” when used to describe people who believe they are entitled to decide the correct views to have on any political issue. When the word is used to describe athletes, soldiers etc. it is used to describe people who are very good at what they are supposed to do. There is only sense in which the chattering class constitute an elite; they are very good at holding on to power. That explains the fury with which they react when their inferiors have the temerity to win a referendum or an election.

    In the past they would normally have accepted defeat in a general election or a presidential election with reasonably good grace. After all,Tweedledum could be relied on to continue with broadly similar policies to Tweedledee. However after the Con part of LibLabCon won an outright victory over the LibLab parts of LibLabCon at the last UK general election one Guardian journalist wrote about how she had been going around in floods of tears. By now she probably thinks that the franchise should be denied to “nasty” people.

    Our ancestors, or some of them, from the Chartists to the Suffragettes, made considerable sacrifices to achieve universal adult suffrage. At this time of year we remember all those soldiers who sacrificed their own lives in the defence of our country, including those from other parts of the Empire or Commonwealth, and we also think about their fellow soldiers who fought for freedom and were lucky enough to survive.

    We cannot take freedom or democracy for granted. When I was growing up we thought that the only threat to both was from the Eastern Bloc. Few people expected the Cold War to come to an end in their lifetimes and when that happened many people assumed that freedom and democracy would triumph everywhere and that we would all live happily ever after in peace. We now know that peace cannot be taken for granted. Recent events show that freedom and democracy are also under threat and may need to be defended if they are to be preserved for future generations – even though the young are the foot soldiers of those who do threaten our freedoms.

    • Dreadnaught

      A whole genertion has been exposed to an educational system of Leftist re-interpretation of the English Language focused on on the drip principle of political change by stealth. Labelling of people is now paramount among the self selecting pressure groups formed to make minority issues major causes. The BBC is now about as skewed in its left-wing focus to a degree that would have been ridiculed or castigated as being no better than abject propaganda.and totally subversive toward British cultural norms
      The current Snowflake generation has been handed freedom and democracy handed to them on a plate and as a result can’t appreciate what is being lost so long as they can take holidays abroad and spend endless hours on their iphones taking selfies.
      The are in for a rude awakening.

      • David

        Quite so. The left has gained considerable control over peoples’ thoughts by inverting and twisting language. When they launch a tirade at you, more than half the accusatory words are recently invented leftist expressions designed to shame you into submission. These words are hollow, devoid of any real rational content. But many of the young believe them and are, as you say, in for a brutal awakening.

    • David

      “By now she probably thinks that the franchise should be denied to “nasty” people”
      How prescient ! Giles Fraser has a Guardian article in praise of a return to Monarchy. Obviously it is tongue in cheek ! He was, surprisingly, a Vote Leave campaigner.

      • bluedog

        One suspects that Trump envisages an evolution towards monarchy in the US, with himself as the dynastic founder. Note that three of his children have been appointed to his transitional committee, overseeing cabinet appointments. The next step may be appointment of these children to the US cabinet, thus giving them administrative experience. There has been talk that Michelle Obama may run as the Democrat candidate in 2020. It would not surprise this communicant if Michelle found herself facing off against Ivanka Trump, if not in 2020, in 2024. If the Trump business continues to perform well, financing a further presidential campaign will be easy.

  • Jon Sorensen

    “The Bolshevik Broadcasting Company attributes Trump’s victory to “uneducated Americans””
    in other news
    “Uneducated Trump supporters think BBC stands for “Bolshevik Broadcasting Company””

    • The Explorer

      Very good, Jon. How to destroy the great Western tradition of irony with literalism.

      • Jon Sorensen

        in other news
        “Uneducated Trump supporters can’t take a joke”

        • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

          oh indeed we can, dear Jon…

        • Royinsouthwest

          It’s the way you tell ’em!

        • len

          Its the’ Biased Broadcasting Company’…surely?

          • Politically__Incorrect

            Brainwashing Bullies Club

          • David

            Nice one !
            Hopefully you don’t own the copyright ?

          • Deimos

            Billious bitching clitonista’s ?
            Basic bealzabub commentary?
            Blessed be Cameron?
            And to think they once represented absolute fairness (if you were a decent English citizen of course).
            Blessed be my fellow narrow minded xenophobes, let us continue to rule by wickedly decent politenes and horribly well reasoned gentlemanliness.

          • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

            Blustering Biased Crapola…

  • Politically__Incorrect

    Wonderful satire as usual Mrs Proudie. The events in Germany are indeed strange. I read on Breitbart that the Central Committee for Germany Catholics are urging the Germans authorities not separate Christian refugees from Muslim ones despite widespread reports of persecution of the former by the latter. Apparently this encourages the notion that the two religions are incompatible. Integration now means allowing people to persecute, bully, forcibly convert, rape, assault and intimidate. How wonderful is this idea of being “progressive”!

    • David

      Yes I read that too, on Breitbart London I think. Shocking isn’t it ? How utterly callous ! It represents an incredible retreat from reality, from the nature of the beast, all to bolster what is manifestly a failing liberal doctrine. Once again the foolish western Christians elevate their politics and liberal rose tinted views above common sense, compassion and indeed, ultimately, their own survival.

      • Politically__Incorrect

        It is indeed disturbing yo see the extent to which the “Christian” church often abandons followers of Christ in the interest of political correctness. I’m sure this is the kind of thing that drives many Christians to the political right. Right wing politicians, regardless of their own religious credentials, seem to have a better grip on these realities.

  • David

    Fresh back from men’s breakfast at the Cathedral to a most enjoyable reading of Mrs Proudie’s excellent satirical political commentary. Many thanks indeed for setting up the week-end again for me, dear lady.
    Thinking well ahead, may I book two seats for The Barchester Te Deum ?

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      You shall sit at my right hand, dear David…but not on it.

      • chefofsinners

        How much extra for that?

  • Deimos

    I think that perhaps we are only getting part of a failed post election strategy here i.e. First elect the Mrs Cliton, then lament about poor uneducated Trump voters “needing” re-education and finally the compulsory re-education camps open.
    Like the “Madam President” Time magazine cover, it was all ready to go but alas those naughty pale uneducated colonials voted off script, how it must try the patience of their betters.
    – and yes the spelling mistake above is deliberate, I have an odd sense of Huma.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      I am sure that if Mrs Clinton had then Mrs Proudie would have given her the coverage she deserves, and I don’t mean a soft pillow.

      • Pubcrawler

        Six feet of earth?

        • Politically__Incorrect

          Personally I’d prefer concrete:less chance of a comeback.

          • Pubcrawler

            At a crossroads, face down, with stake through the heart and covered in quicklime. The old ways are best.

      • David

        I was thinking more in terms of that wonderful pyroclastic material, pillow lava, still in its early terrestrial stage, and hot, glowing, mobile and very viscous ! Speaking metaphorically of course.

    • grandpa1940

      ‘I have an odd sense of Huma.’

      Indeed. Quite apposite.

    • Anton

      From Aberdeen?

  • David

    It is becoming increasingly interesting to observe how there are now more amongst the “lower orders”, whose thinking, being less influenced by “higher education”, especially of the liberal arts, are able to deduce what is happening in the wider world, using pragmatism, common sense and deduction. The tendency of the “educated” to continue to believe in the demonstrably failing liberal, neo-conservative world view represents a huge failure, and therefore an indictment, of much higher western education over the last perhaps 40 years. Although this continues to surprise me, it should not, since much education, and most media output, has been devoted to liberal indoctrination, and not teaching people how to think.

    • chefofsinners

      Indeed, David. I suspect that western society is at a turning point, as is was in the 1960s. Our ‘progressive’ politicians are blaming the older generation, but that generation is the one which brought about the social revolution of the last 50 years. Now they have had their fill of it. Social and moral liberalism, materialism and hedonism have disappointed, as they always will. Politicians have shown themselves to be self serving and self indulgent in the same way that they encourage others to be. Let us pray that as society turns from these idols it also turns again to God.

  • Dominic Stockford

    I note that there is a new course in Sweden for teaching people to be politicians – all lessons in Arabic.

    • David

      Does the political leadership course include lessons on arson, as a specialised subsection of “Methodologies of Protest”, all within the “Practical Politics” module ?

      • Dominic Stockford

        Do they need to be ‘taught’ this?

  • dannybhoy

    ” We need no lessons in democracy from dusky Latinos. One thinks of Eva Peroni, Che Guava and Fidel Castrol, and shudders.”
    Excellent -especially Fidel Castrol.

    “The Evangelical Church in Germany is giving us much cause for concern. The Bishop of Schnitzel-mit-Noodlein’s special outreach envoy, Dr. Horst Throatwarbler, paid a courtesy call at The Palace yesterday, and over Earl Grey and hobnobs he mentioned their plans to actively campaign against right-wingers.
    “Frau Merkel’s government have been very helpful,” he explained, “They have issued a pamphlet identifying right-wingers by their blond hair, conservative dress and quiet, undemonstrative natures.”

    Which reminds me of…

    I trust dear Mrs Proudie you and yours are keeping well and flourishing?

    • Mrs Proudie of Barchester

      Flourishing indeed, for I am in full bloom…

      • Dreadnaught

        Obviously shorthand for Bloomers – Winter draws on Dear Heart.

        • David

          Please – too much information !

          • dannybhoy

            At least the lady’s comments are briefs..

        • Bernard from Bucks

          And our dear friend Gracie will sing it for you.

          • Dreadnaught

            Nice one MrB. Not seen that before. Cheers

    • David

      Most amusing U-tube. Says it all really.

    • IrishNeanderthal

      The BBC has been a source of silly anti-German humour ever since the days of the Goon Show.

  • grandpa1940

    Ever listened to any of the BBC’s ever-so-liberal ‘journalists’ as they plied their wares and words across America, in the months, weeks and finally days before the election? Ever listened, as I did, to the thinly-veiled questioning of voters across that huge land? Every question, every statement asked the same unspoken question: ‘How come you are even contemplating voting for this moronic dullard; this billionaire fool; this racist, misogynistic clown who defies the normal courteous norm of politicians by stating, bluntly, that ‘this’ is what he believes in; that ‘these’ are his policies; and that he will not, ever, S.T.F.U., and stop hogging the limelight and the headlines?

    The Today reporter, just the other morning echoed those insulting comments in his quest to allegedly find why people had voted for Trump. He spoke to a Republican voting guy, saying, ‘you are an immigrant; you are a rich man; you are part of the Republican Establishment: you are someone who should be stating that this vote is a tragedy!’ And the worst part is that this American did not throw this upstart liberal commentator off his property; or at least bring out his legally-licensed shotgun and threaten him with instant defenestration if he insulted his President-elect for one more second.

    But the real problem is that these so-called ‘journalists’ believe in what they peddle! They honestly believe that anyone with the slightest interest in Right-wing ideas or policies is a clone of Hitler, and as such should be placed firmly in the slammer, because they do not accept the Will of the Liberal as ‘effing gospel.

    • Dominic Stockford

      I didn’t hear one voter asked “How can you vote for this infanticide supporting woman?”

      • They were on Catholic websites – repeatedly.

  • “But what is this? A plot to reverse Brexit and remain within the EU? The Liberal Democratic leader Mr. Farron has given the game away in a bid to make himself seem important. He is not, being only the man in charge of a very small rump.”

    How can the Lib Dims call themselves Liberal and Democrat when they are seeking to over rule the will of the people? What do they think democracy means then I wonder?

    • David

      As Rees-Mogg said the Liberal Democrats are neither liberal nor democratic . They are a truly vile group, as they’ve become a parody of Classical Liberalism.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      Indeed, it seems we live in the age of the oxymoron.

      • The Explorer

        Not sure about the ‘oxy’ part of the age.

    • Royinsouthwest

      Do you remember the German Democratic Republic? Comrade Corbyn certainly does. It was German and it was a republic so that is 2 out of 3 – whereas the Liberal Democratic Party is a party and so scores 1 out of 3.

      • Anton

        In the 1970s and -80s you knew that anywhere called “The People’s Democratic Republic of…” was an utter rathole.

  • David

    Brothers, sisters and all semi-respectful atheists, are we not blessed by the “flexibility” of the those hallowed, much revered initials ……. B B C ?

    Today, so far alone, reinterpretations include gems such as : –

    Mrs Proudie’s by now semi-traditional, “Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation”.

    Then there’s my second favourite, “Bullying Brainwashing Corporation”.

    Which is not to ignore another favourite of His Grace’s diocese,
    “Biased Broadcasting Company”

    Ah the beauties of the English language, with so many words to choose amongst…

    Archbishop Cranmer will no doubt soon be distributing end of year prizes for the most apposite of these reinterpretations.

    • Dreadnaught

      all semi-respectful atheists… Aw shucks Mr D, Tugs the heartstrings for shure. 🙂

      • David

        You’re welcome ! Have a nice day !

    • Anton

      Switch off the license fee and just sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

      • Pubcrawler

        I’ve done my bit. Haven’t paid it for years (lawfully).

    • chefofsinners

      Beelzebub’s Bestial Cabal

      • David

        Even truer

    • Sarky

      Buggers Broadcasting Communism.

      • David

        True

    • TropicalAnglican

      1. Beyond Belief Claptrap
      2. Blatantly Biased Corporation
      Also, with the BBC, it is not a question of “Jump!” — “How high?” but rather “Sink!” — “How low?”

      • David

        Top marks for creativity.

  • Dreadnaught

    Indeed M’Lady the British Bolshevik Corporation sums it up succinctly.
    One of my fave TV programmes HIGNFY last night, was such a venal diatribe of anti-Trumpism without wit or humour, I felt quite uncomfortable watching it. I don’t defend Trump; I don’t have to: but if Britain wishes to have a mutually beneficial relationship with the USA it has to realise that openly biased content like this will not help future trade/defence dialogue. When its new Head of State is subjected to this degree of disproportionate ridicule from our national broadcaster before he has even done anything in Office, you know it’s going to be an uphill struggle for sure.He will however, still be the President even if he is perceived as a joke by the BBC: and he will meet with Government and the Queen as the ‘leader of the West’. We may not need Trump but we sure as hell need the US

  • Inspector General

    Oisín mac Fionn is an arse. Look what he’s sent the Inspector….
    ——————————————————-
    The level of senseless hatred in your remarks reminds me that brutish ignorance is alive and well and winning elections in both the UK and the US.

    People like you voted to put those they hated in concentration camps in the 1930s. They may well do it again. The difference between then and now is that the hated minorities know what happens when brutish ignorance is in the ascendancy. I don’t think they’ll let it happen again. Their lives depend on it.

    Of course minorities can’t hope to bring down a majority. But they can makes its life bloody hard to live unless it respects their basic rights.

    As Trump takes power and attempts to roll back hard-won freedoms, we should expect to see significant civil unrest leading to political and economic instability. A US weakened by internal strife will not be able to play much of a role internationally. In the ensuing power vacuum, other nations will rise to prominence.

    This election will be remembered as the moment the US withdrew from the world stage leaving others to fight for the lead role. Europe won’t be in the running, mired as it is in its own struggle between liberal and reactionary forces. Others will step in to fill the gap and become our new overlords – nations that don’t even pretend to respect democracy. Or religious freedom.

    Good luck to all Christians when whatever satellite government Beijing installs in Whitehall decides to take an interest in the Church.
    ————————————————————–
    Tomorrow now belongs to us Oisin. Really, it does…

    • bluedog

      Glory be, Inspector, Oisin McOisinface really has it wrong. A more likely outcome is that the independent Republic of Hong Kong, working in tandem with the Republic of Singapore, will be invited to bring the rule of law and the institutions of the the British Empire to restore order in Beijing.

      • Inspector General

        He’s Poisin, is Oisin…

        • The Explorer

          He’s Linus.

          • Perhaps we shouldn’t be too cock-a-hoop just yet about a populist shift to the radical right.

          • The Explorer

            I did say ‘might’.

          • Terry Mushroom

            Interested in why you say that, Jack. And what you mean by “radical right”?

          • David

            The conventional right-left axis for explaining politics, although much loved by academics and media types, has long been a very inadequate tool for understanding. Although still having some currency, it is what lies behind the left-right continuum that counts…. which is globalism versus local culture, faith, family and their champions, the democratic nation state.

          • Anton

            This needs tighter specification. Gold is a globalised world currency. We routinely drink coffee and eat rice grown thousands of miles away. The point is to facilitate free trade in goods but not in people, which means keeping national borders strong. I’d say that the main debate is not so much Left vs Right as those who want big government (Right or Left) vs those who want small government.

          • David

            My thoughts exactly !
            Yes it is globalists, and all those who do their work, often unwittingly, versus the local peoples who want to retain their cultures, faith and ways of life.

        • bluedog

          Nice one, IG.

        • Royinsouthwest

          To misquote the old saying, one man’s fish is a Frenchman’s poisson!

          • Pubcrawler

            Why do Frenchmen have only one egg for breakfast?

          • Royinsouthwest

            I’ve no idea!

          • Pubcrawler

            Because one egg is ‘un œuf’.

      • Anton

        In 1997 there was an editorial in the Daily Telegraph about the end of HongKong stating that one could hope and pray for the biggest reverse takeover in history. Interestingly that is proving not a million miles form the truth.

        • bluedog

          There has just been an excellent article in the WSJ by two HK democracy advocates. It points out that HK has a unique culture that dates from 1841 when British institutions arrived in China through the agency of the British Empire, establishing a small state with a self-electing Chinese population that willingly emigrated there to benefit from British rule. As such, HK pre-dates the Chinese Communist State by over 100 years and should be allowed to flourish on its own terms. Usually in the event of de-colonisation, the UN insists on self-determination. But this right was never granted by the British or Chinese governments in the negotiations prior to 1997. May be the status of HK should now be put to the vote.

          • Anton

            I recorded 6 hours of the HongKong handover onto videotape and have since digitised it to DVD. Now there’s a disc for a winter’s evening with a bottle of single malt. The worst thing about it is Patten not wearing proper governor’s kit, and blubbing.

    • Anton

      Trump is unlikely to “roll back hard-won freedoms”. What he’s going to do is make sure that white middle class heterosexual men have just as many civil rights in practice as, er, persons who aren’t white middle class heterosexual men.

      • Inspector General

        Trump won’t be doing anything. He’s assembling a team to do it all for him…

        • Anton

          If so (re Trump), that’s called leadership. It’s how Reagan operated.

          • Inspector General

            What he will have to do is sweep out Obama’s placed degenerates in SCOTUS. Most important, that…

        • chefofsinners

          Yes, Trump has an entourage known as ‘the posse’, who obtain the things he needs. Hence the term ‘grabbed by the posse’.

          • David

            ‘the posse’
            I like the reference to the wild west….. very American, but hey if it works…

          • Inspector General

            Thank you corporal Jones.

          • chefofsinners

            They don’t like it up ’em.

          • Inspector General

            You’d be surprised….

        • David

          The wise President, or any exceedingly senior leader, delegates almost everything. The skill is in picking the right people to act as your arms and legs..

      • David

        Quite ! It is about restoring the equality of us all before the law. And don’t forget about the white working class men either !

    • Far be it for me, as a newbie in these hallowed forums, to butt into a conversation with the Inspector General.

      But can anyone see China as an emergent nation represented in Daniel’s prophetic end-times statue?

      More likely, prophetically speaking, that the wounded global elite will spawn the Angel of Light from a revived EU/Roman Empire to miraculously reconcile/deceive everyone (except the remnant of the Christian church ‘the very elect’), declaring peace in the Middle East etc etc…Time to dust off Second-coming prophecy?

      • Inspector General

        China is not a threat, that man. The mainland Chinese are going through a stage of deciding what a Chinaman is. Western communications technology loose in the country, you see. An increasingly expectant population at odds with communist strict order. It’s all they can manage to keep a lid on the whole thing.

        As for the second coming, we are told that Jesus will have a winding up order in his hands when he comes back. We are far too entertaining a crowd for the Almighty to trigger that. At the moment, that is. Let our unpredictability as a creation amuse and delight Him…for a long time yet…

      • Anton

        The four beasts of Dan 7 are the four major empires that lead up to Christ’s second coming, just as the four parts of the statue in Dan 2 were the four empires that led up to his first. The lion is clearly Britain, the bear Russia, and the 4th beast the Antichrist dictator’s world empire. So who is the third, the winged leopard? Either an Islamic empire or China, and I am unsure which. Shall we debate it?

        • IanCad

          Babylon, Medo – Persia, Greece, Rome. Or at least that seems to be the preterist view. A dual fulfillment of prophecy is the position amongst the historicists.

          • Anton

            The preterists are wrong in this case, because Daniel was explicitly told that the four beasts were in the future (7:17) whereas the head of the statue represented Babylon, which had already conquered the Jews; Daniel was in the service of its king.

  • Laugh out loud…

  • Dreadnaught

    In much of western Europe, on all the issues that matter, competitive politics decayed to a rotation of arrogant co-regents of an insular elite, with predictable consequences: if the political culture forbids respectable politicians from raising certain issues, then the electorate will turn to unrespectable ones.

    Mark Steyn 2004. Reprised and applied to the US Presidential Election 8th Nov 2016
    http://www.steynonline.com/7593/when-everyone-hitler-nobody-hitler

  • chefofsinners

    The crucial question which has yet to be asked is: Will Trump restore the bust of Churchill to the Oval Office?
    Obummer moved it and was shamed by Boris into a confession that he had replaced it with Martin Luther King Jr. ‘Mea sculpture’, he said.
    Trump is a hands-on kinda guy when it comes to busts. Hopefully Churchill will be grabbed by the posse and returned to his rightful place.

    • Pubcrawler

      Mr Farage has tweeted that Mr trump is enthusiastic about the idea of restoring it. Maybe the word ‘bust’ swung it.

      • chefofsinners

        No surprise that even in retirement Farage is doing more for this country than all our other politicians put together.

        • Anton

          Notice that the elections for boss of UKIP appear to be on hold and that Farage is still officially in charge. I predict that he will keep things that way before the Supreme Court judgement, and also after if it upholds the High Court decision.

    • David

      Nigel Farage is, as usual, ahead of the game and has been in conversations with the President elect in his headquarters, Trump Towers. Obama’s legacy will be in tatters within months of the new presidency starting. Isn’t it good to strike back !

  • David

    With Trump about to forge an alliance with Putin to destroy Isis, which makes huge sense, and of course demands the pragmatic leap of retaining Assad, I see that the FO suggests that Mrs May can persuade Trump to remove Assad.
    Really !

    The UK government has allowed its foreign policy to be led by the follies of the globalist’s puppets, like Obama, for so long, resulting in our crazy, inhumane policies, of assisting the US in destabilising ME regimes, plus destabilising one ourselves, namely Gadaffi, the FO now finds itself wedged in an impossible, irrational and disastrous policy posture. Having acted for so long against our best interests, and against big chunks of humanity as well, finding our way back to safer, more rational ground will involve travelling over bumpy ground. I shall fasten my seat belt and enjoy watching the pro-EU fixated FO and certain UK politicians squirm like hell …….truth really does emerge, eventually….

  • len

    The attempt by the west to’ democratize’ Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya, and other Countries has ‘opened the gates of hell’ in the rise of Islamic terrorist groups. Putin is cleaning up the mess caused by the West but the effect on the civilian population is being catastrophic because this is a war being fought in urban conditions and IS are using civilians as human shields and not allowing them to escape. Assads forces are reluctant to let ‘civilians’ move around freely because IS members infiltrate crowds to move position. Europe has apparently not recognised the fact that IS members move in and with refugees.

  • IanCad

    The BBC is going downhill fast, but there are still a few bright spots as were seen on Radio4’s superb coverage of today’s Remembrance Service. Jonathan Dimbleby is witness to inherited traits. Sure, a bunch of effete, limp wristed androgynes, along with a cast of hairy-chested helots, currently run the show, but revolution is in the air! I sense change – the blood of those who fought and died heroically lies dormant. It will rise again.
    Just hope it doesn’t take another war to wake it up.

  • TropicalAnglican

    By the way, there are claims that Trump has also won the popular vote (obviously not official, believe at your own risk):

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpWonPopularVote?src=hash
    Have given Anton and Old Nick separate links (since they were having a dust-up about electoral college versus popular vote majority).

    • IanCad

      When you see a headline from the Washington Post two days ago such as this: “Why we can be confident that Hillary Clinton will win more votes than Donald Trump” You can be pretty sure Clinton will be pipped at the post.

    • chefofsinners

      Thanks for the link. No doubt this will not be shouted about on the BBC.
      The final electoral college is a thumping: 306 to 232.
      Cue Brexit style whingers saying how narrow the margin was.

    • Anton

      My main point was that people who didn’t like Trump were complaining about the details of the voting system only *after* it delivered the result they didn’t like. But thanks for the interesting stats.

    • grutchyngfysch

      Tis nae true.

      I don’t honestly understand the fascination with the popular vote. I sympathise (to some extent) with a desire to reform it (with the caveat that the metro/rural divide would become even more entrenched) but does anyone think it wouldn’t have a material difference on voting patterns if, say, Democrats in Texas and Republicans in California knew their votes would actually count? It then becomes very difficult to suggest what the final result would be.

      Besides, before the election, I read of several enterprising services which were allowing you to “swap” your vote to help make it count in swing states. People vote tactically where systems encourage it.

  • Busy Mum

    Considering the many years of compulsory education in both the US and the UK, it is incredible how many ‘uneducated’ people seem to be on the electoral rolls. Surely there cannot be enough ‘uneducated’ people left in either of these countries to wreak such havoc as Trump and Brexit?